Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
Posts: 793
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Sept 20, 2011 13:52:22 GMT -5
I plan on taking a favor bath. Since Kiso-san already has the Richest Samurai title, perhaps I'll take most popular. Everyone loves the Monkey.
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Sept 20, 2011 22:47:04 GMT -5
Monkey love, just sounds a little kinky.
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Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
Lion Clan * Bushi * Tactician * Shireikan of the Akodo Army * Ambassador to the Scorpion Clan
Posts: 371
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on Sept 21, 2011 2:18:24 GMT -5
You all can send him favors if you like. I think he'll like something a little more practical: Medium Infantry.
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
Posts: 793
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Sept 21, 2011 13:06:00 GMT -5
Yeah, that is a current favorite of mine. I'm spending Monkey favors like water. Though I think the Badger now get stuff too. I like MCA love. I like it a lot.
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Post by The Blue Ronin on Sept 26, 2011 11:45:35 GMT -5
If the Kyuden Bayushi actions are all pro-Hantei why does one of them have them assisting the Crab, an anti-Hantei Clan?
It's going to be pretty harsh on the Scorp who sacrificed to get their Clan into the pro-Hantei camp if their actions involving assisting the Crab armies.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Sept 26, 2011 12:01:52 GMT -5
Dear, read it again. Those are pro-Hantei actions. All of them. They can hit Unicorns, Lions or Crabs. All those clans followed Kaneka, leaving their lands with small armies only. This is why Spiders are attacking the Wall...
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Bayushi Hisa
Scorpion Clan
Samurai * Courtier * Dark Paragon of Will * Loyal
Posts: 479
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Post by Bayushi Hisa on Sept 26, 2011 12:05:05 GMT -5
If the Kyuden Bayushi actions are all pro-Hantei why does one of them have them assisting the Crab, an anti-Hantei Clan? It's going to be pretty harsh on the Scorp who sacrificed to get their Clan into the pro-Hantei camp if their actions involving assisting the Crab armies. We arent assisting the Crab. We are attacking the Spider by first going through the Crab.
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Enishi
Dragon Clan
Ninja * shadow * tattooed * Mad prophet of Nothing
Posts: 254
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Post by Enishi on Sept 26, 2011 13:29:45 GMT -5
Same difference really... It's not helping win the war.
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Sept 26, 2011 13:41:37 GMT -5
Its helping us win the next war early!
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Post by Shoju on Sept 26, 2011 13:44:20 GMT -5
A shame, this could have all been averted with words. Now, its coming to blows. The empire will be weak and ripe for plucking at the hands of the next invader because of all this.
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Enishi
Dragon Clan
Ninja * shadow * tattooed * Mad prophet of Nothing
Posts: 254
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Post by Enishi on Sept 26, 2011 14:01:43 GMT -5
Its helping us win the next war early! Hey, I see how it's helping you this war all right, Kiso-sama
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
Posts: 1,891
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Sept 26, 2011 16:33:52 GMT -5
The scorpion of the forum wish to defend the wall. There is no enemy greater to the empire then the Spider.
Also think about it this way, the scorpion options are to attack the lion the unicorn or the crab. In l5r who EVER wants to attack those 3 clans? I mean come on! Losing hand. but in all seriousness our logic is that if we can't defeat the march of the taint then what empire is there to fight for? We're also covering our butts based on whoever wins. Attacking the spider is good for everyone, Toturi and Hantei alike, cause both camps said hells no to the spider.
We in the scorpion clan humbly request that hantei supporters who are voting at Kyuden Bayushi please vote to feint attack the crab and defend the wall.
We also ask all Toturi crab to please let us through. Pretty please?
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Post by The Blue Ronin on Sept 26, 2011 16:48:20 GMT -5
"We arent assisting the Crab. We are attacking the Spider by first going through the Crab."
It mentions the attack on the Crab being a "cover". This implies that it'll be a sham with Crab forces just standing aside.
If this happens the Scorpion are effectively not taking part in the civil war, they're staying neutral and pursuing another, different war (the Empire/Shadowlands war).
I'm not saying that there aren't good IC reasons for this, but... it's frustrating for those of us who were hanging in there hoping for the Scorpion to come to our aid in defending Hantei.
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
Posts: 1,891
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Sept 26, 2011 16:54:46 GMT -5
We would be doing far more then defending Hantei, we would be defending the Empire. We would be insulting the Crab clan by taking up the duty they forgot if it makes you feel any better.
We could have chosen to be vindictive and taken the Lion route, stealing 3 sides river for our own. Tell me how taking up petty revenge against the crane clan for winter court is beneficial to winning the war.
The Scorpion clan is not in much of a position to help as it is. But defeating the spider is an agenda that all pure samurai of Rokugan can agree to. Our other options are simply self serving, and despite the mon Senshi wears on his kimono, or the banner on his back, he is still an honorable man. He will not backstab his new allies by seeking only a gain for the scorpion clan. Those being taking the whole trade lane or stealing 3 sides river. Defending the empire against the shadowlands, however... is there a greater task a samurai to perform for the empire?
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
Posts: 922
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 26, 2011 17:00:08 GMT -5
I don't see this action as "reinforcing the Crab" or "protecting the Wall", as these would be neutral actions and Jay made it pretty clear, with the last votes, that the Scorpion doesn't have the option of neutrality.
So, attacking the Crab is exactly that, backstabbing their remaining forces, while they're under attack by the Shadowlands, and taking the Wall by force, in order to "protect" it. I really can't see how this will end well.
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