Daigotsu Daisuke
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Post by Daigotsu Daisuke on Oct 4, 2011 0:46:23 GMT -5
i love the idea of snatching relics at the retreat of the empire. Awesome thread Hiro!
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Bayushi Senshi
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 9, 2011 15:42:51 GMT -5
(ooc: how about THEM apples.
proposed solution: total yes: 26 total no: 28 total live: 28 total die: 26
So, I propose that the sword not be recovered, but that Chiyuki live. This, I feel is a suitable tie breaker, taking into account those few votes that went the odd way in this situation.
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Yasuki Chad
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Post by Yasuki Chad on Oct 9, 2011 15:45:45 GMT -5
Well damn. That was a deadlocked poll.
I agree with Senshi as to a possible solution.
I would further add that she should come very close to both getting the sword and dying, without actually doing either.
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Toku Hirotomo
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Oct 9, 2011 15:57:54 GMT -5
Okay. I have an idea. Can a Mod roll using invisible castle, please? they time stamp their rolls. I will pick odd or even numbers, then roll, then let the dice decide her fate.
So...Even.
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Bayushi Senshi
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 9, 2011 16:16:32 GMT -5
relevant cbox log, read bottom up: Bayushi Senshi: invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3214190/9 Oct 11, 04:14 PM Bayushi Senshi: so she lives and recovers the sword 9 Oct 11, 04:14 PM Bayushi Senshi: it rolled a 6 9 Oct 11, 04:13 PM Bayushi Senshi: evens will be lives/yes odds will be dies/no 9 Oct 11, 04:13 PM Toku Hirotomo: could a mod please roll using invisible castle and post it in my Imperial Court thread? I'd like for chance to dictate the outcome. I was very suprised when it came out dead even
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Shosuro Aroru
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Oct 9, 2011 16:35:26 GMT -5
...It's not actually dead even, the no's have it by 2 votes. Now if you're going to penalize the people who were being nice and saying no and live I'll change my vote from no and live to no and die. If you really want to go with the favoring an in between vote it would be no and lives but captured.
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Bayushi Senshi
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 9, 2011 16:40:27 GMT -5
that is of course assuming that the most important thing about this vote is the sword and not the life of the npc. people voted for those two options equally, and a 50/50 outcome was used to tie break.
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Post by Asahina Yuuto on Oct 9, 2011 16:52:26 GMT -5
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Shosuro Aroru
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Oct 9, 2011 17:07:45 GMT -5
...No, I didn't vote for that option equally. I only cared about the not getting the sword. I couldn't care less about whether this npc lives or dies. I decided to be nice. This vote is tiered with two different outcomes intermixed, one outcome involves the sword and one outcome involves the character's life. If this was supposed to be a straight vote with each option being weighted equally then it should have clearly stated so. Toku can do as he wants obviously, it's his character and his results. To be quite honest I'd have to say that stealing a major artifact falls in the realm of "god" modding just as claiming an NPC's title does. I'm just saying why I feel it's wrong to leave it to a coin flip when their is a majority for one of the options.
...If you truly wanted this to be a die roll then you should have just done that from the start.
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Akodo Taiyo
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Post by Akodo Taiyo on Oct 9, 2011 17:36:09 GMT -5
When I originally saw this poll I interpreted it as a straight forward, 4 option vote. No where was it indicated that this would be an Alternative Vote. I can understand misconstruing it as such, simply because there were no instructions posted for it...only the voting options themselves. If anyone was uncertain about how it was going to work, or what type of vote it was, they had plenty of time to ask for clarification before now.
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Bayushi Senshi
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 9, 2011 17:42:34 GMT -5
(ooc: I am creating an OOC thread for this, so as to not clutter up Hirotomo's space.
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Bayushi Senshi
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 9, 2011 17:43:05 GMT -5
post all ooc thoughts here
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Shosuro Aroru
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Oct 9, 2011 19:23:42 GMT -5
When I originally saw this poll I interpreted it as a straight forward, 4 option vote. No where was it indicated that this would be an Alternative Vote. I can understand misconstruing it as such, simply because there were no instructions posted for it...only the voting options themselves. If anyone was uncertain about how it was going to work, or what type of vote it was, they had plenty of time to ask for clarification before now. ...I wasn't unclear about anything, it was a poll with two different outcomes and 4 ways to get those outcomes. No where was it indicated this was going to be a straight vote where whichever one has the most wins. It doesn't say whether it requires a majority of the votes for something to get chosen either, ie over half the total votes to win. It doesn't say anything. The person who presented this poll is at fault for that, not the people who voted in it and trying to turn the blame around on them is not an acceptable response.
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Akodo Taiyo
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Post by Akodo Taiyo on Oct 9, 2011 20:39:56 GMT -5
When I originally saw this poll I interpreted it as a straight forward, 4 option vote. No where was it indicated that this would be an Alternative Vote. I can understand misconstruing it as such, simply because there were no instructions posted for it...only the voting options themselves. If anyone was uncertain about how it was going to work, or what type of vote it was, they had plenty of time to ask for clarification before now. ...I wasn't unclear about anything, it was a poll with two different outcomes and 4 ways to get those outcomes. No where was it indicated this was going to be a straight vote where whichever one has the most wins. It doesn't say whether it requires a majority of the votes for something to get chosen either, ie over half the total votes to win. It doesn't say anything. The person who presented this poll is at fault for that, not the people who voted in it and trying to turn the blame around on them is not an acceptable response. Wait a minute...participating in a poll, losing, throwing out accusations of god modding (even though you freely chose to participate without voicing any concern at the time), and insisting on one particular assumption about what type of voting rules should have been used is an acceptable response? You need to get over the fact that it was not setup as an Alternative Vote, and lose with a little dignity. Personally, I couldn't care less which outcome had won, it just bothers me that we can't hardly do anything around here anymore without someone throwing a fit. Oddly enough, those lines almost always seem to be drawn between the Toturi/Hantei supporters. I'd be willing to bet that all these little disagreements are really just ways for people to vent their frustrations from the civil war, and that if there were no civil war, no one would be getting quite as uptight. I think we need Kasumi to come in with some lovey-dovey video and chill this thread out.
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Bayushi Senshi
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 9, 2011 20:46:30 GMT -5
((Edited out portion as I believe it to be too much on my part.))
We have all been misbehaving. It has to stop right now. Its Hirotomo's thread let him do with it as he pleases. I do not view this as godmoding since he asked for a public opinion. How he handles the poll is up to him. Done and done. We're all getting WAAAAAAAY too pissy over this.
Please. Its stops here. EVERYONE.
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