Utaku Mai
Unicorn Clan
*Battle Maiden* *Paragon of Honor* *Goddamn Rockstar*
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Post by Utaku Mai on Oct 13, 2011 9:58:48 GMT -5
You guys are about equal in rank (Haruka even tends to squeak by you in glory rankings, doesn't she?) so I think you're probably good.
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Post by Hida Joji on Oct 13, 2011 10:18:02 GMT -5
I'd disregard the psychich bond thingy and go with cold-hard-power logic.
Utaku horses are better than other steeds, they don't want any other family to use them. They extend the myth to their own man, who can train and use other unicorn horses, so as to gain the upper hand as shock cavalry in a, mostly, infantry empire.
As to weddings... usually arranged stuff, so it's all about perceived advantage.
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Post by Mirumoto Asano on Oct 13, 2011 16:55:48 GMT -5
Well, in my opinion "absolutely forbids" mean exactly that it never happens, but everyone interpret rules on his/her own. All the years I played L5R, I haven't meet anyone who played strictly "by the rules" - everyone takes from setting what they like and go with it (especially GM), so it can be one of that times. If you don't like the rule, don't use it or slightly change it.
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 13, 2011 17:49:44 GMT -5
I was already a champion and she was a relative nobody. Her marriage to me has significantly increased her station. Heck, she even ran off with some of the Utaku steeds herself.
I look at this as the folly of her daimyo to agree to a marriage that was so advantageous to the scorpion.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Oct 14, 2011 20:52:49 GMT -5
Ekhem. If we talk about EE... I, as a Daimyo of Utaku Family... agreed to their marriage. Why? Because NO Unicorn could step between those who love eachother (this is what I think), Kasumi even asked Haruka if she loves Senshi. If she said "no", then Kasumi would say "no" to their marriage. Of course, she didn't want Haruka to go and marry into another family, but oh well... It would be a different story if she wanted to marry some simple samurai. Giving a Shiotome to a Champion... to some points it is a good deal for Utaku family. I still wonder how to use it through I always play Utaku... and this is what I think. It's not that Utaku forbids their males to ride horses. Someone has to break (or whatever you call it) them and get them ready for Shiotome (yes, at some point SHE has to deepen a bond between her and a horse, but before that...?). What about those horses that are not used? Are you telling me that each Shiotome has only one horse ready for the battle? So if that horse dies she has to wait... for how long? 2 years for a new horse to be raised and trained? It's a waste of a warrior. IF they have more horses than Shiotome... then who's tending and riding them, so they don't go wild? I think this is a duty of Utaku males. Not only grooming. And as someone has mentioned before... it's a bit weird for Utaku males to be forbidden to ride a horse... Tell me... how did they travel while on Burning Sands then? Did they walk behind their females? I think this is like... ONLY Utaku women can ride a horse into a battle. And we are talking about Utaku Steeds. Be rational... if I send a messenger (male) to... Shiro Moto (to Khan) for example... will he walk? Or ride a horse? D'oh! Oh. Core Rules (4ed) p. 38 (too lazy to retype) There is "(...) there matriarchal families are more likely to marry their men, rather than their women, into other families" And this is about Utaku and Moshi. So, it means they sometimes do that. I mean marry their women into a different families. Of course there must be a reason for that, that benefits the whole family or even a Clan. Ok, almost 4am... so don't want to write an essay
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Tsi Eri
Oriole Clan
Oriole Clan * Artisan * Samurai * Actress * Daughter of Tsi Karone
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Post by Tsi Eri on Oct 15, 2011 0:03:27 GMT -5
Just as a note, not every marriage has one of the spouses stay home to manage the household. While this is always true when there are children, but in a childless marriage like the one between Senshi and Haruka, there is plenty of precedent for both members of the couple to be active. Especially among high ranking members of clans who are more likely to have important duties and the ability to use Clan resources to look after the household in their absence.
As a more specific point.
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Post by Mirumoto Asano on Oct 15, 2011 17:41:27 GMT -5
Thats a general rule, but precise rule states that Utaku forbids marrying their daughters to higher status samurai and Moshi and Matsu just discourage it.
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