Saiko
Spider Clan
Here we stand, at the end of all things...
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Post by Saiko on Dec 4, 2011 5:13:08 GMT -5
And they all look like this
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Post by Isawa Okibi on Dec 4, 2011 11:41:50 GMT -5
Here's the thing though, as partisan as Phoenix are, our lands are much farther from the battle and chaos, and likely to be safer in the long run. I'd be somewhat comfortable with the Seppun protecting him if they remained here, but I suspect they will want to drag him down through the war-torn Crane lands. The Phoenix lands are the least affected so far of all the empire, honestly.
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
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Post by Tamori Manji on Dec 4, 2011 13:51:10 GMT -5
With assassins like those even I want to risk my life now. They can come on to me all they want, all day/night long PS.: On a more serious note, I do think the Seppun are more qualified to protect Sezaru, since they are literally born and bred to do that (remember that in the storyline "Bane of the Wolf", in order to protect him, we have to know at least one of the Seppun kata). And their estate is located in the hub villages, so, not exactly in the middle of the war. Plus, neither the former Shogun nor the Emperor would dare attack Kyuden Seppun, at least not directly.
But, it can be argued that Sezaru chose to join the Isawa and want to be with the Phoenix, despite the risks. I imagine he knew well what he was getting into when he moved to Kyuden Isawa, so, one might say that he would want to honor his adoptive Clan and stay with the Shiba. Personally, I don't think this should be object of political dispute. But, since there's no way to gauge what Sezaru wants in EE, I imagine either result would be fine, as both can be honorably explained.
EDIT: There's also a "wild theory" about this though. Since Hantei disappeared during the last Winter Court and has been acting weird for a long time (I can't say because I wasn't playing back then. These are, probably, simply rumors and slander), one might imagine that he died (and was substituted by an evil copy), was abducted or is under some sort of evil enchantment. All of these unfortunate events would have civil war in Rokugan as an objective, in order to achieve something greater during the chaos (I can imagine some groups who would clearly benefit from this). If that was true, by going with the Seppun, Sezaru might be walking into a trap.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
This person sometimes posts things that are tl;dr
Courtier Magistrate Ambassador Daimyo
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Dec 5, 2011 9:15:42 GMT -5
Ahhh Manji - your theories are all really good! That has made it harder for me to choose one side... gah. Had voted Phoenix originally but now I'm not sure. At least the Phoenix would keep him alive no matter what for the sake of their honor though right?
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Post by Hida Joji on Dec 5, 2011 10:25:28 GMT -5
Interesting how those who take Hantei's side now are suspitious of the "imperial" power... Could it be they doubt the ability of those who protect the, soon to be deposed, emporer?
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
Posts: 625
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Dec 5, 2011 11:07:33 GMT -5
...Actually, my comment entirely meant that I think Jay made a poor choice of words for the action description.
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
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Post by Tamori Manji on Dec 5, 2011 11:50:49 GMT -5
...Actually, my comment entirely meant that I think Jay made a poor choice of words for the action description. Aroru, I've just read that description again and I think you're making things sound more serious than they are. The action states: "Meet with Seppun delegation
A Seppun delegation has arrived with the intent of taking Isawa Sezaru into protective custody. Sezaru is in the unique position of being heir presumptive to both the Hantei and the Toturi emperors."This doesn't mean that the Seppun recognizes Toturi Kaneka as Emperor, simply that he declared himself such (I see it as the first phrase being a description of the Seppun action and the second one being a setting description from Jay's PoV). And Sezaru is still the brother and the Voice of the Emperor (or at least he was). The thing with Toturi is just that, regardless of what the Seppun, me or you might think about it, he did declare himself Emperor and there are people who follow him, so, I think it would be unkind of Jay to simply ignore that. Yes, they are rebels, yes, Toturi has no plausible justification to wage war on his brother like this but still, he declared himself the Emperor and a lot of people believe him even now. There's really no way around that.
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
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Post by Tamori Manji on Dec 5, 2011 13:22:25 GMT -5
On a completely unrelated note, I just saw Poxo's letter to the Scorpion and that gave me an idea. I completely agree with his position there (especially given the nature of the Fox family) and I think it would be hilarious if, when the Scorpion do arrive in Kyuden Kitsune, we got some neutral actions with the kitsune tricks. It would amuse me to no end to be able to pull pranks on and misdirect the Scorpion army while they pass through the Fox's lands and near the outskirts of the forest ;D Also, sorry for the double post. EDIT.: I just realized that I keep coming back to this topic simply because of Saiko's ninjas. Damn ninjas!
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
Posts: 625
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Dec 5, 2011 16:56:05 GMT -5
...I figured that it was a sop to the Toturi side of the rebellion, it just shouldn't be coming from a Seppun action. It could have gone into the news announcement. As it is, I don't think the Toturi camp will care either way since both the Phoenix and the Seppun support Hantei. As far as being serious, it's not, I simply stated why I didn't like it.
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Kitsune Poxo
Mantis Clan
Mantis Clan | Shugenja | Earth | Thunder | Kitsune Blooded | Naval | Daimyo | Unique
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Post by Kitsune Poxo on Dec 6, 2011 9:58:59 GMT -5
On a completely unrelated note, I just saw Poxo's letter to the Scorpion and that gave me an idea. I completely agree with his position there (especially given the nature of the Fox family) and I think it would be hilarious if, when the Scorpion do arrive in Kyuden Kitsune, we got some neutral actions with the kitsune tricks. It would amuse me to no end to be able to pull pranks on and misdirect the Scorpion army while they pass through the Fox's lands and near the outskirts of the forest ;D Also, sorry for the double post. EDIT.: I just realized that I keep coming back to this topic simply because of Saiko's ninjas. Damn ninjas! Shhhhh... it's like I am trying to get more kitsune/spirit or something in a very round about way >.>
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