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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 21, 2011 20:27:49 GMT -5
Which makes me wonder... wouldn't it have been easier for them to attack Rokugan through the Dragon or Phoenix border, rather than the Unicorn one? This flanking maneuver is kinda confusing. Ô_o I'm not so good with tactics... but to me it looks like a fake. I mean - to attack from a side where defence is strong. Look what everyone is doing. Go there and help. And what's happening then? Other parts of Rokugan are left with only half (maybe a little more) defence. Who said that this is the only attack from Yobanjin? Do we even know how many tribes they have? They are not that primitive as we think they are. It has been said that Phoenix clan is trading with them - to learn more about them if it can help to deal with them in a case of an attack. Who said that Yobanjin are not doing the same? Well, this is what I think
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jan 21, 2011 20:44:44 GMT -5
Are the yobanjin the Phoenix trade with even at all related to the Yobanjin at the gates?
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 21, 2011 20:48:47 GMT -5
Who knows? Do they wear mons of their tribes or something? How would you tell one Yobanjin from another? It's like for a Rokugani saying this Gaijin is from x and that one from y country/place. Just like most of white people would say that every asian is chinese (it's hard for them to tell apart chinese, japanese, taiwanese etc). I sense a conspiracy here.
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Post by Doji Hyuu on Jan 21, 2011 21:51:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't say most Asian people are Chinese.
I think it's pretty unlikely the Yobanjin are some gigantic united group all acting as one. Or at least, that that's not their natural state. If they are acting as a vast group I think something must have happened to unite them. Of course given how little attention Rokugan pays to the yobanjin it is possible that something has happened to unite them that hasn't registered.
But it's possible that the attack on Unicorn lands may not be a diversion - it may be that they're seeking somebody or something inside the Unicorn lands. Maybe they have a reason to want to capture Mountain Watch Keep that goes beyond just wanting to grab land?
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jan 21, 2011 22:09:48 GMT -5
I'm not ruling out that they have been put to the task by someone inside rokugan.
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Post by tadakasan on Jan 21, 2011 23:07:45 GMT -5
Well, one could call the Yobanjin like the Ainu, but that wouldn't be entirely correct; the Japanese people came from the west and took over the country; they didn't form a ruling class and rule over the Ainu. We both know the Ainu are a tiny minority today. If the Yobanjin are the Ainu, that would make the Japanese all Kami.
Rokugan is more like the history of South Africa. A small group of people came in (the Kami / the British) and established a new ruling order. There were those who disagreed with the rule of these outsiders so they fled, becoming a seperate group of nations (Rokugan and the Yobanjin Tribes in one case, the Orange Free States on the other). A majority of the natives stayed under the rule of the outsiders and their political order, with the rebel nations being of the same people but not accepting that order and forming their own states instead.
Well it's not an EXACT correlation, but closer. More or less, the Yobanjin ~were~ rebellious Rokugani. Over the years this has beome less and less of a truth as the Yobajin intermarry with the other cultures of the burning sands and developed their own culture, so one could hardly call them Rokugani at all anymore.
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Post by Doji Hyuu on Jan 21, 2011 23:14:16 GMT -5
So wait, the Yobanjin are the Boers? Or the Xhose? If the Yobanjin are the Boers, who are the Xhose, the Nezumi?
I really don't think there's a real world metaphor that explains Rokugan.
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Post by tadakasan on Jan 21, 2011 23:16:15 GMT -5
Yeah, not precisely like I said
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 21, 2011 23:50:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't say most Asian people are Chinese. No, not like that. To people in my country every asian they see... IS a chinese. Sometimes even I have problems to say if that's a person from China or Korea... or Taiwan... or whatever. There are differences in each asian nation... but not many non-asian people can see it. This is what I meant
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jan 22, 2011 1:26:23 GMT -5
Then there is a similarity between Poland and America, cause that misconception is common in the United States.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 22, 2011 6:24:00 GMT -5
Senshi, you mean because people put all asians to one bag and call them chinese? It's a common thing everywhere except in Asia, I believe
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jan 22, 2011 8:14:39 GMT -5
Yes, and while I understand there may be a billion of them, why is it that Asians are perceived as being Chinese? Why not Japanese, or one of a hundred different cultures?
Edit: And yes, I actually thought it was a silly American thing to get THAT ethnocentric
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 22, 2011 9:40:36 GMT -5
Maybe because China is huge... and there live many people... dunno. It's just like that, we have to face it.
So there might be a chance... that Yobanjin are the same. No matter what - they are called Yobanjin, those close to Rokugan. Others are called gaijin. but then again... it should be yAbanjin - and that means barbarian. Not sure if there is something like yobanjin in japanese... but I might be wrong.
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