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Post by Tamori Yamasai on Dec 30, 2011 19:22:40 GMT -5
The Castle of the Swift Sword will fall. All the traitors will face justice.
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Post by Hida Joji on Dec 30, 2011 19:32:31 GMT -5
Yes, you will!
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Dec 30, 2011 20:32:26 GMT -5
I'm going to repeat Koichi-san,...I'm unsure if the scores are reset or not. It would make sense due to the fact the playing field is different, since the Dragon were attempting to take the castle before Toturi showed up and now he is here at their backside completely changing their strategy. Could we please get some clarity on how this is going down? I'd hate for anyone of either side to waste their time on an incorrect notion of how this is going to play out when they could be at Winter Court.
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Asahina Yukihime
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Post by Asahina Yukihime on Dec 30, 2011 20:44:11 GMT -5
Previous battles didn't had the score reseted. But if would be nice to know for sure anyway.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Dec 30, 2011 22:48:39 GMT -5
Aye it would be nice to know if this is now all fresh or whether the previous clicks count. If they did then I think the Toturi side has already lost ^^;
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Shosuro Aroru
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Dec 30, 2011 23:34:07 GMT -5
...I agree that some clarity on the issue would be nice if for no other reason than clarity is always a good thing and can normally be easily given. However, I wouldn't expect the scores to reset since they never have before and this battle was already made more difficult by the 3-1 ratio. Wiping out previous efforts without saying that was what was going to happen would just be a slap to the face of everyone that clicked. Jay said more actions will be coming, i'm expecting them to be Toturi ones.
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quarim
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Post by quarim on Dec 30, 2011 23:39:26 GMT -5
Either way someone is screwed. If it's still a 3:1 ration then the Dragon have no real hope of making that happen. If the ratio goes to 1:1 then Toturi have a huge deficit to overcome. There's no real fair way of wrapping up this battle.
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Tamori Koichi
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Dec 30, 2011 23:50:14 GMT -5
The 3:1 ratio was only put up in this battle only because there was supposedly a time pressure. 2. Storm the castle: If we go this way, the Dragon will have an initial numerical advantage against the Lion, something like 4:2 or 5:3. If the Dragon beat the Lion by 3-to-1 (a high ratio, but IMHO isn't out of line for storming a well-defended castle; if they had no time pressure, they wouldn't need nearly this much) before Toturi's army arrives, I'll rule the Dragon capture the castle and can hole up within; this would make their force roughly equal to that of Toturi's army. On the other hand, if the Dragon do not beat the Lion before Toturi shows up, they will be in serious trouble, caught between a big army and a tough castle. The serious trouble for the Dragon has already manifested itself with the 4:1 new jobs that had been added in favor of the Toturi camp. The battle at CotSS should return to the normal 1:1 needed win ratio that had been used throughout all locations during the war.
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Shosuro Aroru
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Dec 30, 2011 23:50:47 GMT -5
...What's unfair about the side with the most clicks winning? The way it's been for every battle so far?
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Dec 31, 2011 0:56:30 GMT -5
I gotta agree that it would be nonsensical to start from zero again, simply erasing the efforts so many players have already put into this battle. The new battlefield conditions, as stated by many others, already depict the clear advantage gained by the Lions with the Shogun's army arrival and, so far, no battle erased results due to conditions changing or new conditions arising, I don't see why this one would be different.
Also, the current battlefield conditions by no means favor the Dragons and, if we are to win this conflict, we will have to continue working hard with the few options we now have. That way, I see no motive to further penalize our actions.
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Post by Akodo Tsanuri on Dec 31, 2011 2:47:19 GMT -5
you will have to work hard, but you still have over 20k move votes to start with. so if you will work hard, you will win. no matter what we will do, we stand no chances here dragons all along had more actions than we, at last it is even now. I don't say that Jay should erase previous scores, but if he didn't and the ratio will be 1:1 fighting here would be useless
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Akodo Keisuke
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Post by Akodo Keisuke on Dec 31, 2011 3:20:48 GMT -5
I have something to say on this issue with the unbalanced actions but I will wait for a while to see the forthcoming actions.
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Post by Mirumoto Asano on Dec 31, 2011 4:25:32 GMT -5
I don't think it will reset, as Jay stated it's: SIEGE RESULTS - SO FAR.
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Post by Hida Joji on Dec 31, 2011 6:56:03 GMT -5
Since when does a battle or even a war need to be fair? The situation is, IMO, Dragon have a huge army and position around CotSSword, Toturi's Army ran in the middle of winter to fight.
1st Bout was won by Toturi by preventing the taking of the castle. 2nd Bout is going on with the contest beeing, at first glance, favorable to the Lion side but with a big gap to overcome. Dragon side has confortable edge but with effort represented by the new actions and the contest I think we'll get an even result.
This looks like a good battle, good actions, a contest.
Small request: Cool actions are definitely on Hantei's side. I don't have a suggestion so please fellow Toturi supporters give good suggestions to Jay!
PS: Deathseeker flavored action? Semi-suicidal sorties from within the castle? Using light infantry and Yari?
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Post by Hida Joji on Dec 31, 2011 6:58:47 GMT -5
Question: Good place to gather light cavalry ? I saw the item list but nothing popped out.
HAVE A GREAT 2012! EVEN IF YOU ARE A HANTEI LAPDOG!
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