Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
Lion Clan * Bushi * Tactician * Shireikan of the Akodo Army * Ambassador to the Scorpion Clan
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on May 2, 2012 22:59:33 GMT -5
The only new actions are for the tainted or the non-Lion? Bah. Back to token farming, I guess.
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
Dragon Clan * Shugenja * Earth * Void * Yamabushi * Duelist
Posts: 228
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Post by Tamori Koichi on May 2, 2012 23:00:17 GMT -5
The Crab have been watching too much GoT and are trying to pull a Robb Stark move on us. Their main is marching to the Scorpion/Spider while the one at SWC is a decoy. But since I doubt Jay will again remove the scouting action (after the trouble doing so had caused), The Crab can actually win Seawatch if they spam the scouting action. Minimum fate, no item cost.
Manji, while I do agree with your assessment, please not gaijin pepper again. A send home action fits the Crane better.
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Demon Fox (妖狐)
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Post by Tamori Manji on May 3, 2012 1:22:32 GMT -5
The only new actions are for the tainted or the non-Lion? Bah. Back to token farming, I guess. Every Toturi supporter can do the action March with the Crab at the Tidal Landbridge. Koichi, I do agree that pepper is a pain to get (and I also agree with your opinion about that scouting action. Guess the birdies will have to work overtime on that battle). Its just that it took me way too long to decide to board the infamy train and I wanted to blow some stuff up now that I did (I knew it was only a question of time before I decided to assassinate Lion officers in TR, but I did struggle against the urge for many months). Talking about decoys, it would be nice if the Scorpion attack at Kyuden Kitsune ended eventually, since the action it was a cover for (the invasion of CWV) has already been concluded. But all in due time, I guess.
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Hitsuzu
Dragon Clan
Ronin, Ise Zumi, Bloodspeaker's bane, Friendly Traveller (with Sak
Posts: 52
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Post by Hitsuzu on May 3, 2012 1:53:12 GMT -5
>> Manji : -A follower of Hantei supporting the use of (don't forget it) the banned gaijin pepper? Rhoooo ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) -Half a Crab army = more than enough to defeat all of the Crane armies. It's just maths, really. Everyone with the Crab on this!!! They're doing what is right (making Crane and Scorpions bleed) and what is their duty (protecting the empire from the shadowlands) at the same time! P.S: When I clicked on "March with the Crab" at "Tidal Landbridge", it turned immediately to a "Mastered (5% toward next reward)", and I only clicked once. Is that normal? And after clicking ten times (making it to mastered, 50%), still no reward?
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Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
Lion Clan * Bushi * Tactician * Shireikan of the Akodo Army * Ambassador to the Scorpion Clan
Posts: 371
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on May 3, 2012 2:27:05 GMT -5
The only new actions are for the tainted or the non-Lion? Bah. Back to token farming, I guess. Every Toturi supporter can do the action March with the Crab at the Tidal Landbridge. Yes, but it's not a new action. It's just a reactivation of the prior March with the Crab job when they were on their way to Lonely Shore City in the first place. I know, because I still have my mastery of it on record.
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star.png)
Demon Fox (妖狐)
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Post by Tamori Manji on May 3, 2012 5:24:38 GMT -5
Ahh, I see Kenzo. Sorry, thought it was new, that's a real shame then.
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Post by Hida Joji on May 3, 2012 5:41:57 GMT -5
Everyone with the Crab on this!!! QFT! Everyone with the Crab on this!!! QFT! P.S: When I clicked on "March with the Crab" at "Tidal Landbridge", it turned immediately to a "Mastered (5% toward next reward)", and I only clicked once. Is that normal? And after clicking ten times (making it to mastered, 50%), still no reward? Perhaps you have it mastered once before? It's not a new action, as to drops, I can confirm it drops stuff, scouts and heavy infantry(?)... Not the best drop %. Unlucky?
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
Posts: 625
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on May 3, 2012 7:37:43 GMT -5
...Is that actually correct, a battle action with no item cost? Jay, that needs to change. I don't care if it costs something cheap, but no item cost whatsoever unless it's a 40 fate action or has a skill 200 requirement is completely unbalanced. Even if you give the other side the same type of action later on.
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Post by Shokuma on May 3, 2012 7:47:37 GMT -5
The requirements are Stealth 20 and Toturi Supporter, no item cost (15 Fate). Though on similar subject, the Rally Troops action at River of the Drowned Merchant also got changed to having no item cost. Perhaps they are just a little too spammable.
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Utaku Mai
Unicorn Clan
*Battle Maiden* *Paragon of Honor* *Goddamn Rockstar*
Posts: 484
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Post by Utaku Mai on May 3, 2012 8:30:54 GMT -5
There are other advantages than strictly item-based ones. I'd be willing to argue that a *slight* nerf in the Crane's direction might give the crab a fighting chance rather than just being completely killed. I'm not aware of the specific stats, but I tend to think that the Crane might very well be the biggest active faction on the whole game, given how often things tend to go their way. I think the only thing they ever lost was Lonely Shore City, and that could be attributed to their focus on two other battles at the same time.
I don't just mean war actions either. Three Sides River, anyone? The Lion truce? The *other* lion truce?
Maybe let things roll for a bit before immediately crying foul.
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
Posts: 625
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on May 3, 2012 8:35:11 GMT -5
...I don't consider it Jay's job to "balance" the game against the most active part of the player base. We as the player base are supposed to do that. I'm not the biggest crane fan out there, but it doesn't mean I think the game's creator should come in and try to quash them. Besides, a no item cost battle action is not what I would call "slight" nerfing.
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Utaku Mai
Unicorn Clan
*Battle Maiden* *Paragon of Honor* *Goddamn Rockstar*
Posts: 484
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Post by Utaku Mai on May 3, 2012 8:38:36 GMT -5
It is if you can still get 3 crane clicks per crab one, even with farming actions.
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
Posts: 625
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on May 3, 2012 8:50:28 GMT -5
It is if you can still get 3 crane clicks per crab one, even with farming actions. ...It's not a crane/crab thing though, it's a hantei/kaneka battle. It's all of hantei vs. all of kaneka minus the Lion. I believe the hantei side has the numerical advantage, but I don't know that for sure. I don't believe it's a 3-1 advantage or we wouldn't have lost any of the battles in this war.
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Post by Shoju on May 3, 2012 9:09:16 GMT -5
Maybe there is some ration in play that we don't know about. It's fruitless to debate the fairness of it if we don't know all the variables.
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Post by Hida Joji on May 3, 2012 10:06:52 GMT -5
I have no idea how many active players there are... After the big big noise on CotSS about actions I don't believe Jay did this by distraction/mistake.
We will see how it turns out. This update has a "short duration" feel to it, the crab march + the prep. actions at seawatch castle + Oni lords... I have a feeling everyone(?) will be at the wall soon enought.
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