Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Apr 29, 2011 17:48:14 GMT -5
The logic was that its the safest route.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Apr 29, 2011 18:17:45 GMT -5
^^ Just like the wall is the... hey, wait a minute. Hmmm. I think some Mantis advisors need to commit seppuku. Just saaaaying...
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Post by tadakasan on Apr 29, 2011 19:22:39 GMT -5
Isn't this the safest route for the Mantis? And it gives them the most time on the water: River of Gold right to the ocean. Problem there is that the River of gold ends in Scorpion lands, and to get any further you have to haul everything over the mountain passes. The middle route however would have allowed the Mantis to go up the coast then go up Three Sides River, which goes all the way north to Shiro Shinjo; one big stretch of some of the safest water in Rokugan (the River of Gold is notorious for pirates) and it doesn't involve any portages. As far as the politics thing goes, I realize that. But surely everyone wants what's best for the Empire, no? The quickest, safest route to get the Emperor's good to the north since he has allowed such a thing in his benevolence? Not that I would accuse the Crab of putting themselves before the good of the Empire of course, what with their important duty. How could one forget with how much we can be reminded of such things? That important duty is all the more reason the Crab shouldn't be burdened with such things; after all, they've been so quick to remind others of the uselessness of the Crane and Lion for debating honor and politics while Crab soldiers die every day. Why put the "responsibility" on them? I digress though since I am but a humble ronin at the moment. I speak as a courtier and scholar and no more.
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Apr 29, 2011 19:46:26 GMT -5
brennor.dyndns.org/~steve/L5R/CombatMaps/map_rokugan.jpg ...There seems to be negligible ( if any) difference between the distances of the routes as clearly seen here. As for "river pirates" they are far more manageable than those found on the open water, which is the route you think is "safest." I will agree that using mountain passes might be cumbersome at first, however, the trade route would provide incentive and funds to create a new or improve upon roads in the mountains.
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Apr 29, 2011 20:04:01 GMT -5
Either way, we could have the same argument about Three Sides River. But the debates/lobbying came through the way they did in both cases. Go politics!
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Post by Hida Setsuro on Apr 29, 2011 20:12:14 GMT -5
Another key factor in that it's good for us is that not every place in Crab lands is a terrible place where we guard the empire from the Shadowlands. You have places like Yasuki Yashiki. Keep in mind that the Crab wage a CONSTANT war against the Shadowlands. Now with a traderoute going through our lands, it opens up more supplies for us and more trade opportunities.
This alone is very important.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Apr 29, 2011 21:00:55 GMT -5
Good points Setsuro. I sincerely hope that ends up being the case
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Apr 30, 2011 0:28:07 GMT -5
Isn't this the safest route for the Mantis? And it gives them the most time on the water: River of Gold right to the ocean. 2 Crab territories suffering from the plague is definitely the safest after all.
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Post by Agasha Miga on Apr 30, 2011 5:17:51 GMT -5
It seems that the Emerald Champion is keeping an eye on the development of the trade route. You'll see if you take care of the pirates. ;-)
May the Air Kami favor your ship!
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Kakita Shinji
Crane Clan
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone
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Post by Kakita Shinji on Apr 30, 2011 5:38:17 GMT -5
whoa, you've mastered that? Air Kami must favor you, I have terrible luck finding those darn pirates
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Post by Hida Maiku on Apr 30, 2011 6:35:46 GMT -5
Big thanks to the Scorpion and everyone who voted for the Southern trade route. Lots of sake was consumed to make it happen. Them pirates are really hard to find. I'm at 94% to Emerald mastery for Patrol Shipping Lanes and only got 11 Pirate sightings for my trouble.
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Kakita Shinji
Crane Clan
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Post by Kakita Shinji on Apr 30, 2011 7:25:12 GMT -5
5/33 droprate for me so far.
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
Dragon Clan * Shugenja * Earth * Void * Yamabushi * Duelist
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Apr 30, 2011 7:49:04 GMT -5
Tamori-sama, why is it every time I travel through Dragon lands, I hear rumors of bloodspeakers and occult murders? Perhaps because we and the Scorpion are the only ones who are actually doing anything about them right now, Yoritomo-sama. Investigations are on their way, so of course it is inevitable that there be talk about them. *grins*
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Apr 30, 2011 12:54:21 GMT -5
Ahem. Well. This is meant to be mostly ooc. Play nice boys. Even the most skilled at something benefit from constructive criticism. Even though one may be the best swordsman in the Empire, that does not mean that one cannot improve further...
If you wish to offer counsel we'll happily listen. Instructing may be a little off. However, the fact there are still pirates and the odd missing vessel even in and around Mantis lands and the fact the plague continues in Crab lands does suggest that even a group who specialises in something does not necessarily perform it ideally. If you do choose to help us with our investigations, we would not turn you away, even if you were less experienced in it than ourselves.
Do not forget humility~
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Post by vegandeathmachine on Apr 30, 2011 13:05:00 GMT -5
OOC. was unaware this was OOC. Deleting post. More than happy to discuss this IC in an appropriate forum.
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