Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jul 15, 2011 17:09:17 GMT -5
So, for the record - I did some calculations. Of course you can look at the number of votes for both sides and see not much difference, at about 700 more for Hantei. That of course doesn't include the minor clans (many are pro Toturi) or the Unicorn, nor does it include the Spider though.
However, this following revelation is quite important:
If you assume that all those within a clan will be forced to join that clan's position. Then, if you calculate the for and against for that clan, you get the number of clicks they will roughly contribute to the war effort: 2795 - clicks that will now be for toturi 4909 - clicks that will now be for hantei
So the lion, crab and mantis contributed 2795 The dragon, crane and phoenix contributed 4909, nearly twice as much
The scorpion could even things out with about 2400 votes and of course this doesn't include the unicorn nor the spider or minor clans. Nonetheless it's a shocking thing
How does that info grab people?
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jul 15, 2011 17:14:54 GMT -5
I would like to take the opportunity to say how proud I am of the scorpion in this matter.
2400 votes, up in the air. Better still is that that was mostly non-forum going voters too. Crazier still is that its mostly in line with what those of us in the forum decided would be the best course of action.
2400 votes/voters on Hantei's side guarantees his victory, add up all the hantei votes plus the scorpion 2400 and you get a massacre.
2400 votes/voters for Toturi's side turns the massacre into an even battle.
I'm dead serious. Toturi. Hantei. Its time for you to come to ME and MY CLAN asking for the support of the scorpion. No more will I grovel at their feet, and neither will my clansmen. The ball is in the court of Kyuden Bayushi now.
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Post by Isawa Okibi on Jul 15, 2011 17:18:03 GMT -5
However, this following revelation is quite important: ... 2795 - clicks that will now be for toturi 4909 - clicks that will now be for hantei ... How does that info grab people? Nearly twice the active support? That bodes well for the results of the civil war, I think. Also, props for the Council, we do in fact have leverage!
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Post by tadakasan on Jul 15, 2011 17:27:32 GMT -5
Karone hadn't even noticed any of this. Perhaps he will be forced to if it hinders his training and work...
Oh, and yeah; undeclared is SUCH a Scorpion thing to do. Anyone else it would be dishonorable; with the Scorpion it's simply expected.
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Post by scorpionshadow on Jul 15, 2011 17:47:52 GMT -5
Well, I can't help to say that... It's more like Wisdom that was learned.
As a Crab does; Protect first. As a Crane thinks; Let them come to us to seek help. As a Dragon, most of all; Wait until the path becomes clear. As a Lion, always think strategics. As a Phoenix; Seek the truth above.
But not like Unicorns, those barbarians... In fact we now know the best moment to move, its really a surprise?
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
Dragon Clan * Shugenja * Earth * Void * Yamabushi * Duelist
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Jul 15, 2011 18:08:26 GMT -5
Since the debate is now over (silent yay!) I'd like to plug my offense/defense strategy for the Hantei.
Advise the Emerald Champion to attack the Lion. Adivse the Crane to defend Toshi Ranbo.
If any allies have different plans, I'm open to suggestions. ^__^
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Takezo
Dragon Clan
Shugyosha, Loyal retainer of Toturi, Dragon Champion-in-exile
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Post by Takezo on Jul 15, 2011 18:10:01 GMT -5
I do believe I actually arched an eyebrow when I read the results!
(Takezo - the Dragon clan Champion - is *still* personally Toturi's closest ally and most ardent supported - how this plays out RP-wise promises to be... complicated.)
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jul 15, 2011 19:29:49 GMT -5
Very complicated Takezo. Possibly made worse by the Spider issue. We'll see
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Post by Isawa Okibi on Jul 15, 2011 19:34:53 GMT -5
Well, not that I would condone such, but there may come a point in time where supporting the opposite candidate may allow you to take some 'alternate' actions.
It is convenient that the Infamy reduction action is in Dragon lands though, isn't it?
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Post by Mirumoto Keitaro on Jul 15, 2011 19:40:14 GMT -5
I eagerly support the Shogun -- but will change sides the minute the Lion or the Crane try to besiege our mountains. And then I'll cleanse my shame or cloister myself in a monastery.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jul 15, 2011 19:44:01 GMT -5
You'd change sides if the Crane try to besiege the Dragon? I thought the Crane were pro Hantei. Did you mean the Lion or Toturi?
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Post by Mirumoto Keitaro on Jul 15, 2011 19:47:45 GMT -5
Yes, that's what I meant
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Post by Bayushi Toshiro on Jul 15, 2011 20:10:42 GMT -5
If you assume that all those within a clan will be forced to join that clan's position. Then, if you calculate the for and against for that clan, you get the number of clicks they will roughly contribute to the war effort: 2795 - clicks that will now be for toturi 4909 - clicks that will now be for hantei You're forgetting that the Unicorns were not given the opportunity to click... (at least for that vote). Surely their numbers count for something? EDIT: one more question.. is "one vote" equal to one click on the action? I assumed that one vote was one mastery (hence that one person could vote three times max). If it's # of clicks, I'm going back to burn my few Scorpion favors !!!
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Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on Jul 15, 2011 20:44:20 GMT -5
Of course the Unicorn numbers count. We just have no way of knowing what those number are.
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Jul 15, 2011 21:09:50 GMT -5
I'm doing my best to steer the train away from the Dragon. The Crane or the Capitol. We win nothing going after the Dragon.
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