Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
This person sometimes posts things that are tl;dr
Courtier Magistrate Ambassador Daimyo
Posts: 1,140
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jul 16, 2011 17:49:20 GMT -5
Something like that. Still, I think we've killed this now. Better get back on topic and leave mods to disect.
Good luck with your plots Shoju!
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
Posts: 1,891
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jul 16, 2011 18:06:15 GMT -5
alright alright stopit everyone. Yes we're dissecting it. Thanks. I really wanted moar work to do today.
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Alesha
Spider Clan
Fallen Crane * Duelist * Bloodspeaker * Tactician * Maho-Bujin
Posts: 418
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Post by Alesha on Jul 16, 2011 22:26:23 GMT -5
((Ladies and gentlemen,
I do believe, that accusations of that sort need to be taken carefully with following things in mind: 1) That game is intended to be fun and friendly for every player. 2) That we are mature people. 3) And that what happened pointed several issues that will become even more dire as time goes on.
I will adress the accusation first: I do believe that Hirotomo stated his support for Shogun more then once. His point is that because he is Monkey clan champion (due to high glory or the like) his position is unofficial. To be honest it seems a little bit of doublestandart.
The second issue is the behavior of Yuusha OOC. First I do not believe that arguments of said player on what is right or wrong is the truth in last instance. I also believe that people are at very least entitled to their own opinions and takes. Using the "I have higher rank then you - therefore I am right" in OOC discussion on rather debatable and uncertain things in my opinion does not improve the game, or make it enjoyable. I do not believe that it is a game for existing clique of players where other players are not entitled to even speak their mind openly in OOC chat. What is worse is that I was directly insulted several times, which in my opinion is unacceptable behavior. One of examples is here for reference: "16 Jul 11, 05:17 PM Yuusha: no, neither does your presence and, now i will say it ooc as you're daft, your stupidity"
What worries me even more is that said player went on after I left and asked to stop the conversation as I was not interested in continuing the (I am right your wrong) discussion with fellow player (who isn't admin or GM), and immediately tried to accuse me on metagaming on rather shacky basis. I do not believe such behavior leads to good gaming atmosphere and would rather completely leave the rp side of game and just follow its news.
The last problem I would like to address is that game seems rather unfriendly for newer players. Part of this problem is the idea of Clan Champions and daimyos being players. Those positions are certainly make up for fun game, but only if the said players are active and wise, and not prone to snaps and OOC insults. The forum game is quite small with a handful of active players, and having kuge and non kuge players leads to too much disparity even in minor issues that get blown beyond proportions.
Lets keep game a game - that is fun for everyone and be more friendly to everyone. And lets never devolve into OOC insults.
Thank you.))
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Shiba Kazuma
Phoenix Clan Mod
Phoenix Clan Champion?Samurai?Shiba's Soul?Unique?Enlightened
Posts: 369
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Post by Shiba Kazuma on Jul 16, 2011 23:16:19 GMT -5
Calling upon my mod powers I am calling for a stop to all of this until we have a chance to read through everything and discover the best course of action. Anyone that posts past this post, in response to either Yuusha or Alesha, will have action taken against them for disobeying a mod.
Sorry for being so direct, but this is starting to get out of hand.
Edit: This also applies to the c-box.
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
Posts: 1,891
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jul 17, 2011 0:03:39 GMT -5
SAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!!!!
Hello, Alesha, I have taken this case and have been reviewing the relevant data since this afternoon and have gotten the opinions of several mods. Alesha, Yuusha, it needs to stop here you are both at fault. Alesha, you are guilty of metagaming, the monkey have not been able to make a choice as to who to support, and those that he has talked to about supporting Kaneka have not said out loud and in character for all to hear that he has chosen to do so. Yuusha, you are guilty of egging Alesha on, and for helping to spiral this conversation in the cbox out of control.
The words I never want to hear ever again in any rp setting is, "You are playing your character wrong." No one has the right to say that. A character is the property of their own author. I post this publicly rather then in pms to get my point across to everyone. All players. Don't try to presume upon anyone what their characters can and cannot do.
Alesha, Yuusha, Hirotomo even: No action really needs to be taken, the staff ask that you all just drop this line of thought and questioning.
Alesha, to address a concern you raised. The kuge roles are not un-accessable to new players. There is no elite class here on the forums, just two days ago a player who had been clicking for about 3 weeks rose to the role of Ox clan champion, Morito Mori. And strictly speaking, were anyone of lower status were to call a clan champion a peasant he'd be forced to seppuku, regardless of clan or loyalty. This is not a ruling, I'm just stating something about the setting. Its kinda just how it works. Wars have been started for lesser insults.
This thread is going to remain open, no more discussion will be entertained about this matter, if it is, more severe action will be taken and the thread will be closed. If anyone wishes to discuss this further you may bring it up in a PM with Shiba Kazuma.
Sama on.
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Post by scorpionshadow on Jul 17, 2011 15:26:51 GMT -5
*bows and greets the fellow samurai*
I was cleaning my Daisho and my armor. And then many thoughts rushed through my troubled mind. And I can only hope that in my confusion, some of my prayers could bring some wisdom to me.
The drums of War sounds, the troops gather and our enemy, our true and only enemy remains in the shadows, almost forgotten.
How can I ever draw my Katana agains a descendent of Hida-Sama? How many of them died at the Kayu wall so I could live?
I know that may sound a bit off to many, but what would be of a Bushi like myself without the tenets of Bushido? Don't we all the defenders and servants of the empire? Akodo-Sama is too, our teacher.
I could be here all day, talking... About how every clan, from the Great to the Minor, and tell histories that we all know very well. They are all needed.
Can this war an effort of our enemy? To put brother against brother and offer "help" in desperate times?
I am just a Bushi, and to be one, I have no fear of death, and no fear to speak with total honesty.
I will go through sepukku if I, unwillingly, brought shame to my family and clan with my foolish words.
Thank you all, for your time and pacience. Remember the seven thunders. We are... All... Needed.
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Asahina Yukihime
Crane Clan
Crane Clan Ikazuchi
* Air * Water * Shugenja * Artisan * Asahina Family Daimyo *
Posts: 750
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Post by Asahina Yukihime on Jul 17, 2011 17:06:40 GMT -5
Yukihime have been silently watching for a while, wound't be polite to interrupt any conversation... as things calm down the reserved shugenja is now confortable to approaches. Asahina Yukihime bows to every present samurai with great respect.
I have been away from courts and reunions but... my clan used to behave better, or, it was just an unfortunate episode, I hope. Sure, everyone will learn as their senseis tells them to, even through sepukku if necessary.
I found Shosuro-san's words rather interesting. Seems like my clan got a letter from the Bat, waring about the possible manipulations of some yet "unknown player".
And I, myself, based on limited knowledge, agree the Empire may be tricked by this civil war. But once spoken, actions are in course. Would also not be honored to change what was decided based on yet unsure suspicions. Hope we have time to unfold the true before wasting lives, wasting Empire's resources.
Please, tell your stories Shosuro-san, young hearts must be often reminded.
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Post by tadakasan on Jul 17, 2011 17:13:01 GMT -5
Beautiful long hair Two heavenly princesses We are truly blessed
Just found it neat to have two beauteous honorable samurai-ko both who's lovely names begin with Yu and end with the word for princess. I am most happy ^^
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
This person sometimes posts things that are tl;dr
Courtier Magistrate Ambassador Daimyo
Posts: 1,140
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jul 17, 2011 17:19:52 GMT -5
Awww shucks Karone, you're too kind ^_- *blows kisses*
Let's hope that this war does not drag on too long that too many lives are wasted
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
Posts: 793
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Jul 17, 2011 17:20:03 GMT -5
Your words are wise indeed, Shosuro Hiromitsu-san. It reminds me of what my father told me. T
That despite the likelihood of war, despite the hate, anger, fear, and bloodshed, we remain samurai. As long as one Rokugani draws breath there will be an Empire. Yes, we were all given goals, mandates by the heavens. Yes, we all have our unique outlook, and unique superstitions, but we are samurai.
This war will tear us apart. We will knit back together. This is our war, and it is not our war. Regardless of who one man supports, we will all meet in Yomi.
He told me that he pities the man who has nothing to fight for. The person that has nothing for which he is willing to fight for, nothing that is worth more than his personal safety, is a miserable creature and will never be samurai unless made and kept so by the exertions of men better than himself.
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Asahina Yukihime
Crane Clan
Crane Clan Ikazuchi
* Air * Water * Shugenja * Artisan * Asahina Family Daimyo *
Posts: 750
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Post by Asahina Yukihime on Jul 17, 2011 17:42:08 GMT -5
*Yukihime bows briefly in gratitude for Tsi's words. She then turns gently to the Monkey samurai, like getting allowed to join his conversation*
True indeed, those who have nothing to fight for, sure, had also lost their souls. Life can be meaningless with the lack of a higher purpose, a purpose worthiest than self-rewarding.
But, about the war... I believe Crane's position is clear. Would Toku-san share with us your personal position about it? If Toku-san have permission to do so, of course.
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
Posts: 793
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Jul 17, 2011 18:37:34 GMT -5
The mighty Crane CAN say something, noble Asahina-san. Sadly, my Clan has not been given an option. We are but reeds, and the wind gives us little choice. Besides, who really cares about what side we are on? Will we win the battle? No, we will not. We've not the might of the Crab, Lion, or Unicorn, nor the eloquence of the Crane, nor the craftiness of the Scorpion and Mantis, nor the wisdom of the Phoenix and Dragon.
When the fortunes choose for our time, then our voice will be heard.
OOC: Until I get an actual action to give Monkey support I ain't sayin' nothing. Yes we all know OCC that I'm a Toturi supporter and I have a grand entrance planned when we do declare for Toturi, but until then as Jay put it in a news update "The Minor Clans won't declare right now because they'd be crushed."
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Post by Bayushi Toshiro on Jul 18, 2011 7:41:45 GMT -5
Just a thought... It might actually be good for Kaneka that the Dragon declared for Hantei. How so? Well, as a Scorpion, I remember the attempted coup of our most revered (and at the same time reviled) Champion The Dragon then tacitally endorsed him and turned up doing nothing :lol: !!! Are we going to see a repeat of this ENIGMATIC stunt by my best friends and past allies? I say let them come and negociate with us Scorpion on behalf of Hantei. When the negociation is done, we may well see both clans marching side by side... to Toshi Rambo !!!
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Post by scorpionshadow on Jul 18, 2011 9:59:12 GMT -5
I know now that I am not alone in my desire to, not only stop the war, but more than that, to shift the focus to our true and only enemy.
Many Samurai that I had the pleasure and the honor to meet told me that even the most respected and heroic samurai could do enough to avert the civil war that is beginning. And as I am far from that, little can I do.
But this little WILL be done, this is the Word of Shosuro Hiromitsu, bushi of the Hidden Dojo trained by Bayushi Takarashi-sensei.
Asahina Yukihime-sama *bows respectfully* It is a good thing to hear from you again, and I hope that not only the Crane could hear of the wisdom of a great shugenja that Asahina-Sama are, but all the empire. Your interests in my stories are as flattering as they are also refreshing, the better yet will be my last. I hope that this last can only bring pride to my family.
Toku Hirotomo-san *bows* have shown to be a very wise samurai, I hope only, Toku-san, that we recover fast enough to fight the enemy that waits.
Kitsuki Yuushahime-san *bows*.
I was thinking... Can a plant live without roots?
Thank you all for your kindness.
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Post by Shoju on Jul 18, 2011 10:09:55 GMT -5
Hiromitsu-san,
I'm curious, who is your one true enemy?
Is it the Yobanjin, beaten but still alive to plot against you in the North? Is it the Shadow that takes the souls of men for its own? It is the rampant hunger for power that turns the souls of men against their own? Is it a great clan that has wronged you? Or are you clinging to the ideology that it is me, the bold Former Clansmen who has taken residence far away from his former clan, sought at multiple times to hold peaceful negotiations with his former clan?
Truly Hiromitsu-san, I don't think that there is a "one true enemy for anyone right now. I agree with your sentiment that this civil war needs to stop. The Usurper should rightfully step down and perform the three cuts, and we can begin to usher in a new era of peace where the whole of Rokugan stands united. Once We are united, the Crab and Spider can Cleanse the lands of the Spider of the Oni, and other abominations that plague us, and united we can cleanse the 'tsukai' from the empire who use a magic that they neither understand, nor care to control. We can then fortify our borders, and ensure that no threat ever darkens the doorstep of our Empire again.
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