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Post by kentaro on Sept 3, 2011 17:38:54 GMT -5
OOC: I am enjoying all the sophistry involved in the arguments about what the events mean. Insane logic that would do Wallace Shawn's character in Princess Bride proud.
Plus, the chance for me and my friend to argue vehemently about the honorable choice in a fictional conflict? Delightful.
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Sept 3, 2011 17:53:28 GMT -5
Sophistry is the heart of politics, Tsuruchi-san. We have to have a certain illogical logic already. We're pretending to be samurai, fighting a fictitious war, arguing about the semantics of honorable conduct, and of a code that while similar to RL bushido, is not quite the same, and I doubt very many *Read None* of us follow that code in our real lives.
All the fun things to do keep cropping up, I'm very happy with the way things are going.
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Post by kentaro on Sept 3, 2011 19:06:19 GMT -5
Personally, I feel that Bushido is a cute little bedtime story the Tokugawa's told their nation full of armed belligerents to get them to be nice little boys and girls.
I also feel that a make believe world based too closely on gritty reality would be unnecessary and unpleasant, so it's all good.
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 3, 2011 19:22:22 GMT -5
Personally, I feel that Bushido is a cute little bedtime story the Tokugawa's told their nation full of armed belligerents to get them to be nice little boys and girls. It's pretty much the same in Rokugan, with the added confusion of there actually being Kami and supernatural being around. There's even plots about how the Otomo instigated the rivalry between the Clans, so that they couldn't ever unite against the Emperor.
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Post by Jay Luo on Sept 6, 2011 9:55:59 GMT -5
...Since people are killing their character over this, I would hope that you declare a clear warning when the action is going to end, so people have a chance to maximize their sacrifice if they wish. I plan to leave those actions up for no less than 2 weeks, but probably not more than 3 weeks. Sorry for not giving a more precise cutoff, but I really can only work on EE in my spare time, so it is not very rigidly scheduled.
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Post by Isawa Goro on Sept 6, 2011 10:09:40 GMT -5
The Code of Bushido predates the Tokugawa era, although that might be when it was first codified.
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Utaku Mai
Unicorn Clan
*Battle Maiden* *Paragon of Honor* *Goddamn Rockstar*
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Post by Utaku Mai on Sept 6, 2011 13:49:43 GMT -5
Bayushi Kamada committed seppuku to demonstrate the sincerity of the Scorpion to the Hantei.
Pro Kaneka: +10,036 Glory Pro Hantei: +4,1372 Glory
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Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on Sept 6, 2011 15:46:34 GMT -5
Bayushi Kamada committed seppuku to demonstrate the sincerity of the Scorpion to the Hantei. Pro Kaneka: +10,036 Glory Pro Hantei: +4,1372 Glory Out of curiosity, where are you finding those tallies? I didn't see any kind of leaderboard thing at Toshi Ranbo.
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Sept 6, 2011 16:04:03 GMT -5
Look into Honored Deads at Home page.
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Sept 6, 2011 16:12:03 GMT -5
...Both of the accuse actions seem to have gone away. Rather quick vote that.
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Bayushi Haruka
Scorpion Clan
OOC Cleanup Crew
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Post by Bayushi Haruka on Sept 6, 2011 16:23:56 GMT -5
...Both of the accuse actions seem to have gone away. Rather quick vote that. Perhaps you ran out of clues, because the voting is still in place.
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Sept 6, 2011 16:37:32 GMT -5
...Entirely correct, thank you. Got thrown off by running out of clues and fate at the sametime, used to clicking again and getting the you need this item message.
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Shosuro Motoyami
Scorpion Clan
I am neither madman nor fool. If you dare to cross the Scorpion, I am the consequence you must face
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Post by Shosuro Motoyami on Sept 6, 2011 18:14:07 GMT -5
Bayushi Kamada committed seppuku to demonstrate the sincerity of the Scorpion to the Hantei. Pro Kaneka: +10,036 Glory Pro Hantei: +4,1372 Glory Thank you Mai-san for adding this to the growing tally. Moyotoshi
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Post by kentaro on Sept 6, 2011 19:51:31 GMT -5
The Code of Bushido predates the Tokugawa era, although that might be when it was first codified. To my understanding, bushido was not formalized until into the Tokugawa era. Prior to that, various "House Codes," propagated by specific daimyo exist. That said, i would love to be wrong. Do you have any sources I might examine on this matter, Isawa Goro-san? EDIT: Per request of Bayushi Moyotoshi, I have moved my reply on the nature of Bushido to it's own thread, under General Discussions. The new thread is entitled "Bushido Discussion." I am more than willing to continue defense of my position there, and invite others to do the same.
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Post by Asahina Yuuto on Sept 6, 2011 20:06:43 GMT -5
The romanticized view of throwing yourself on your sword at every opportunity comes from the Tokugawa period when samurai aint got nothing to do. Better to live to fight another day for your Lord -- than cut yourself when things don't go your way.
Its hard for a warrior caste to justify their existence when war is absence for two centuries. Emo samurai.
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