Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Sept 26, 2011 10:33:01 GMT -5
I feel it is necessary to discuss the allegiance of the minor clans in this war, since I have seen multiple sources saying many different things about a few of the clans.
Toturi: Monkey Clan Badger Clan
Hantei: Dragonfly (I would imagine)
The above listed are due to the actions presented in game. Here is the stance on the rp boards from characters, not Jay.
Toturi: Monkey Ox
Hantei: Dragonfly Badger
Having gone through my own clan's debacle of choosing who to support and where, and being compelled to stay in line with Jay's authorship and the will of my clan, I recanted and joined Hantei. It is my firm belief that those who have become champions cannot just say that their clan is not doing what Jay has set out for them to do, instead that we should all rp out solutions that are in line with what Jay has written for us.
I call it the "npc component" of a champion. Each one of us rping as a champion has to remember that not all of our character choices are ours alone. A great deal of what we do will be the result of actions where the will of our playerbase decides or where Jay decides for us.
Thank you all for your time and for reading this.
Senshi
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Post by Shoju on Sept 26, 2011 10:37:33 GMT -5
I must have missed where Jay put the badger in with toturi.
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Post by The Blue Ronin on Sept 26, 2011 10:59:52 GMT -5
If I was playing a Champion I would not make an announcement on a course of action until after the Clan had voted on it, to avoid this kind of dilemma. Until the vote was in I would just say I was "consulting with my advisors" or whatev
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Sept 26, 2011 11:05:30 GMT -5
The description of the new action at Shiro Ichiro is indicative of supporting Toturi.
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Post by Akodo Tsanuri on Sept 26, 2011 11:13:05 GMT -5
I don't remember Senshi-sama to announce his decision before the clan decided. but it was him who suffered the most from Hantei's displeasure. Champions are also players, they must decide to be able to play the game.
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Ichiro Kojuri
Badger Clan
Badger Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * General of the Minor Clan Alliance
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Post by Ichiro Kojuri on Sept 26, 2011 11:13:11 GMT -5
Since I am the current champion of the badger clan, my stand is for the Hantei. Am sure the rest of my clan will support me. As for the actions of my army, it would seem that we are joining the Unicorn clan or something like that. It is obvious that for the Badger to get anywhere in Rokugan we must traverse to unicorn clan territory in any direction. Our goal is to reach Toshi Ranbo to support the Hantei and join in its defences or go alongside the Dragon march if we could catch up to them.
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Sept 26, 2011 11:19:00 GMT -5
I did in fact declare for toturi about a day after he took the name. It was a brash act on my part, but now that we have picked a side, I recanted. It still seems quite the opposite about the Badger clan's alignment. Why would, for instance, the Badger link up with the Unicorn and Toturi's army if they were on Hantei's side? Why would the description of the new Badger action refer to a debt of honor to Kaneka (I strongly believe it is referring to the battle against the yobanjin)?
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Post by The Blue Ronin on Sept 26, 2011 11:21:18 GMT -5
I'm guessing that until the Badger vote like the Major Clans and the Monkey, they won't commit to one side or the other. Jay has been v. consistent on that.
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Sept 26, 2011 11:23:50 GMT -5
To be fair, we have a Monkey vote going on at the moment, so if something bad happens, I may be forced to recant as well. I doubt it, as every Monkey I've seen vote, voted for Toturi, but the possibility remains. I don't know if the others are getting a vote as well.
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Post by Shoju on Sept 26, 2011 11:25:40 GMT -5
This leaves me very jealous that the Spider got thrust in the way we did. I'm rolling with it, but it still is frustrating.
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Sept 26, 2011 11:29:35 GMT -5
I seem to recall that a monkey dissented in the interact tab. Chisato something >.>
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Sept 26, 2011 12:15:06 GMT -5
Why would the description of the new Badger action refer to a debt of honor to Kaneka (I strongly believe it is referring to the battle against the yobanjin)? The exact text of the Badger action says: "We owe a debt of honor, and it must be repaid." It doesn't mention Kaneka anywhere.
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Ichiro Kojuri
Badger Clan
Badger Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * General of the Minor Clan Alliance
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Post by Ichiro Kojuri on Sept 26, 2011 12:52:39 GMT -5
My apologies but I am preoccupied to fully remember where the text "We owe a debt of honor, and it must be repaid." has been stated?
I believe there is no Badger clan in Toturi's army.
We are making our own destiny. Are we following a strict timeline and story line in this game?
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 26, 2011 13:07:49 GMT -5
As Koichi previously mentioned, the action and the quote are as follows: Recruit Badger Troops"We owe a debt of honor, and it must be repaid." Its the last action in Shiro Ichiro (the one that costs 2 Badger favors). But don't worry Kojuri, you are as free to choose where your allegiances lie as mostly anyone else (save few exceptions, like the Unicorn). It's just that some people tend to see only what they want to see.
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Ichiro Kojuri
Badger Clan
Badger Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * General of the Minor Clan Alliance
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Post by Ichiro Kojuri on Sept 26, 2011 13:24:06 GMT -5
Now I remember. Thank you. After finishing that action to Gold I completely forgotten what was said on that one. Please feel free to join my RP in 'Fealty' if you see it fit in the story I am making. Currently the Badger army, according to my story, is encamped near the border of Shiro Shinjo. I am not an L5r cartography expert to know if there is a passage around Unicorn territory for a size of an army to walk through and not trespass on Unicorn grounds? It is pretty hard to be isolated in the bundoks you know
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