Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 26, 2011 14:05:44 GMT -5
Here's a map (from the 4th Edition of L5R) of the northern portion of Rokugan: i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab354/Urfarah/Rokugan.jpgMC9 is Shiro Ichiro; Sh5 is the Fingers of Bone; U means Unicorn with U8 being Shiro Shinjo and U9 being Shiro Utaku Shojo; D means Dragon with D5 being the Pillars of Virtue. Passing through Unicorn territory or directly through the mountains would be dangerous but, luckily for you, this is Utaku territory and Kasumi supports Hantei. The colored lands are under the direct influence of the Clans (purple being the Unicorn and yellow the Dragon). The non-colored territories are pretty much neutral ground. EDIT: Mitsouko just sent me this other map here, that may also help. rpgfreak.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/mapa_rokugan_1ed_a3.jpgI've been talking with a lot of people in order for someone to join the Badger and bring you into the RP but it seems the war has everyone very busy. My dealings at Kyuden Kasuga are at an end and, if you want to, I can find a way to meet you en route to Toshi Ranbo and help you during the journey.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Sept 26, 2011 14:53:24 GMT -5
One thing, Manji. I do support Hantei and it's a public info... OCC one. In the game Kasumi supports Kaneka just like every Unicorn. Not joining battle... as a Daimyo she has to stay in Shiro Utaku to take a good care of her people. She has generals to lead her Shiotome into the battle. This is official version Plus, if you are reading Shiro Moto threads... there are 2 Toturi die hard fans visiting Shiro Utaku at the moment... and Kasumi has a duty to protect them. So... But... if anyone (Badger) wants... they can ask for Kasumi's permission to pass through her land... No one said she has to know which side they are supporting...
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 26, 2011 15:12:36 GMT -5
True, well put Kasumi. I think Kojuri can either border the Utaku lands and enter Dragon territory through D5 or, ask for permission to cross Utaku lands without declaring his loyalties openly.
The safest option would be, imo, to border Utaku plains and the Fingers of Bone until near the Pillars of Virtue, then crossing the mountains at the Furthest Fortress. But, yeah, that would also take longer.
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Ichiro Kojuri
Badger Clan
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Post by Ichiro Kojuri on Sept 26, 2011 15:25:10 GMT -5
So the game does show the route I can take to go anywhere in Rokugan. Pretty much I have to trek to occupied territories.
It will be difficult and time consuming to lead an army through mountainous region. My plan is to cross Shiro Shinjo then Shiro Moto than Dark Edge Village then Drowned merchant river to catch up with the Dragons there bypassing Kyuden Tonbo. I have sent a letter to the Khan asking permission to cross Unicorn grounds.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Sept 26, 2011 15:32:13 GMT -5
You are mostly welcomed, Kojuri. Just send a letter to Kasumi and wait for her reply And Khan... Yoee was here today... but before that he wasn't online for some time. No idea if he will log on today/tomorrow... or when. Also, not sure if he's in Shiro Moto or with his army, following Kaneka. He could be there, as he is the general of all Unicorn forces
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 26, 2011 15:36:29 GMT -5
Yes, there's no easy answer in your situation. Since your first choice is the fastest, I do hope everything goes according to plan. Good luck!
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Sept 26, 2011 15:40:15 GMT -5
*bows* Try, it costs nothing to send a letter And if you wish... you have MY permission to join our thread for a while (you need a permission from Haruka and Tomatsu as well to do that) - with your emissary and a letter thing.
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Bayushi Haruka
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Haruka on Sept 26, 2011 15:49:00 GMT -5
Me and Tomatsu don't mind if you join in. (already went ahead and asked him for you)
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Sept 26, 2011 15:58:33 GMT -5
I would suggestto any one that if you wanted to be tactical with your forces, you would be wiser to not leave your lands completely unguarded and try to march across enemy occupied territory to the other side of Rokugan. Instead I would suggest taking on a foe far closer to home.
Think about this for a second, IF the badger clan were actually supporting Hantei instead of Kaneka (please do tell me what else the quote about the debt of honor could refer to, I'm honestly trying to see how this means anything but Kaneka. I'm not being facetious or confrontational in any way, just very confused about your interpretation) wouldn't it be wiser to say... attack MWK or, attack the lion in their flank, or halt the Unicorn clan advance?
Another thing, more Badger specific: your warriors are trained to move through all manner of terrain with ease. If you were that desperate to travel around all the Kaneka's forces (never mind his HQ is what 2 clicks away?) I imagine the badger clan would be the most capable clan of joining the fray via mountain climbing or forest walking or any manner of stuff.
But this is all off topic. This is supposed to be a conversation about determining what liberties we as clan champions can take. I nearly got my head bitten off for declaring for Kaneka without my clan's consent. And when I tried taking a path where I did something different from in game I was quickly shot down for it.
There seem to be 2 schools of thought about this.
1. That this forum is free from EE and we use the facebook game as a guideline to direct our rp, but if we don't like whats happening in the game we're free to do whatever we want anyway.
2. That the forum is here for us to roleplay the specific events of the facebook game. Down to every detail, and we mesh our characters accordingly.
Thoughts?
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Sept 26, 2011 15:59:05 GMT -5
You see? Come and get your reply, dear \o/
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Bayushi Haruka
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Post by Bayushi Haruka on Sept 26, 2011 16:01:35 GMT -5
Haruka won't be pleased to hear this, or see Kasumi let you through, just saying it now.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Sept 26, 2011 16:06:18 GMT -5
IF we know on what side he is, Haruka. If he only ask for passing through... do we have any reasons to decline?
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 26, 2011 16:17:17 GMT -5
(...) wouldn't it be wiser to say... attack MWK or, attack the lion in their flank, or halt the Unicorn clan advance? Another thing, more Badger specific: your warriors are trained to move through all manner of terrain with ease. If you were that desperate to travel around all the Kaneka's forces (never mind his HQ is what 2 clicks away?) I imagine the badger clan would be the most capable clan of joining the fray via mountain climbing or forest walking or any manner of stuff. I completely agree with Senshi this time. Which was why I posted the maps. Thankfully, he just made what I had in mind very clear, those are all sound suggestions, strategy-wise.
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Kakita Mitsouko
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Post by Kakita Mitsouko on Sept 26, 2011 16:24:45 GMT -5
After much insistence,Jay allowed for the Minor Clans declare their loyalties freely, believing they were able to foresee the consequences of their choices. Just check the dates: both Monkey and Badger declared in RP their loyalties options BEFORE Jay created the actions, so obviously Jay respected the decision of those Minor Clan players.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Sept 26, 2011 16:30:22 GMT -5
Which I don't really like. But I don't want to repeat myself why. *sulks*
I am just waiting for the moment when Unicorns will go and conquer the whole Rokugan! YEAH!
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