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Post by Hida Joji on Oct 7, 2011 13:08:36 GMT -5
Storm the castle! I'm pretty sure it ws Mirumoto who said:
"Climbing a wall while holding a katana and wakizashi made me the man I am today!"
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Oct 7, 2011 13:15:42 GMT -5
Wow, now I really see that I am the only Unicorn having fun on Hantei's side
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Shosuro Yoichi
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Shosuro Yoichi on Oct 7, 2011 13:23:42 GMT -5
I really think this was an upward climb for the Crane. Gaijin goods were hard to come by, and that left "Harry the Crab Advance" as our only option for a good while. And I think having Toshi Ranbo and Permission City going on at the same time made us lose our focus (former Crane here; died for the Emperor's escape). It just hurts to lose two cities, one after the other. I'd like to see some court actions to balance this out, if possible.
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Akodo Keisuke
Lion Clan Mod
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Post by Akodo Keisuke on Oct 7, 2011 13:50:48 GMT -5
Another way of looking at the numbers. Toturi declared clans | Att. Clicks | Def. Clicks | Total Clicks | for Toturi | for Hantei | Crab | 3334 | 90 | 3424 | 97.37% | 2.63% | Unicorn | 1564 | 64 | 1628 | 96.07% | 3.93% | Lion | 2678 | 145 | 2823 | 94.86% | 5.14% | Mantis | 1350 | 155 | 1505 | 89.70% | 10.30% |
Hantei declared clans | Att. Clicks | Def. Clicks | Total Clicks | for Toturi | for Hantei | Crane | 655 | 2497 | 3152 | 20.78% | 79.22% | Phoenix | 546 | 625 | 1171 | 46.63% | 53.37% | Dragon | 2138 | 1496 | 3634 | 58.83% | 41.17% | Scorpion | 1451 | 766 | 2217 | 65.45% | 34.55% |
Minor Clans | Att. Clicks | Def. Clicks | Total Clicks | for Toturi | for Hantei | Monkey | 222 | 0 | 222 | 100.00% | 0.00% | Ox | 120 | 0 | 120 | 100.00% | 0.00% | Hare | 41 | 20 | 61 | 67.21% | 32.79% | Badger | 9 | 49 | 58 | 15.52% | 84.48% | Dragonfly | 0 | 10 | 10 | 0.00% | 100.00% | Sparrow | 0 | 40 | 40 | 0.00% | 100.00% | Tortoise | 0 | 40 | 40 | 0.00% | 100.00% |
The Spider | Att. Clicks | Def. Clicks | Total Clicks | for Toturi | for Hantei | Spider | 606 | 727 | 1333 | 45.46% | 54.54% |
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Oct 7, 2011 14:00:01 GMT -5
A little different look on all battles. First number is number of total clicks for Clan. Second number is number of total clicks for Clan divided by number of missions. This gives more clear view on how much certain Clan engaged into battle since most important factor on performing battle missions is availability of items.
TOSHI RANBO
ATTACKERS Crab 3594 719 Crane 863 173 Dragon 3635 727 Lion 9584 1917 Mantis 1670 334 Phoenix 764 153 Scorpion 1871 374 Unicorn 2612 522 Badger 17 3 Bat 0 0 Dragonfly 0 0 Hare 54 11 Monkey 516 103 Ox 287 57 Sparrow 0 0 Spider 922 184 Tortoise 0 0 Oriole 45 9 TOTAL 26434 5287 DEFENDERS Crab 607 121 Crane 10753 2151 Dragon 5609 1122 Lion 572 114 Mantis 454 91 Phoenix 2709 542 Scorpion 2821 564 Unicorn 319 64 Badger 204 41 Bat 0 0 Dragonfly 11 2 Hare 82 16 Monkey 0 0 Ox 0 0 Sparrow 161 32 Spider 1071 214 Tortoise 43 9 Oriole 0 0 TOTAL 25416 5083
PERMISSION CITY
ATTACKERS Crab 720 144 Crane 11201 2240 Dragon 8024 1605 Lion 1144 229 Mantis 534 107 Phoenix 3942 788 Scorpion 3753 751 Unicorn 539 108 Badger 196 39 Bat 0 0 Dragonfly 46 9 Hare 190 38 Monkey 0 0 Ox 0 0 Sparrow 216 43 Spider 2290 458 Tortoise 99 20 Oriole 0 0 TOTAL 32894 6579 DEFENDERS Crab 2319 773 Crane 574 191 Dragon 2494 831 Lion 5923 1974 Mantis 1109 370 Phoenix 550 183 Scorpion 1097 366 Unicorn 1810 603 Badger 10 3 Bat 0 0 Dragonfly 0 0 Hare 42 14 Monkey 301 100 Ox 122 41 Sparrow 0 0 Spider 558 186 Tortoise 0 0 Oriole 30 10 TOTAL 16939 5646
LONELY SHORE CITY
ATTACKERS Crab 3334 667 Crane 655 131 Dragon 2138 428 Lion 2678 536 Mantis 1350 270 Phoenix 546 109 Scorpion 1451 290 Unicorn 1564 313 Badger 9 2 Bat 0 0 Dragonfly 0 0 Hare 41 8 Monkey 222 44 Ox 120 24 Sparrow 0 0 Spider 606 121 Tortoise 0 0 Oriole 0 0 TOTAL 14714 2943 DEFENDERS Crab 90 30 Crane 2497 832 Dragon 1496 499 Lion 145 48 Mantis 155 52 Phoenix 625 208 Scorpion 766 255 Unicorn 64 21 Badger 49 16 Bat 0 0 Dragonfly 10 3 Hare 20 7 Monkey 0 0 Ox 0 0 Sparrow 40 13 Spider 727 242 Tortoise 40 13 Oriole 0 0 TOTAL 6724 2241
We can see that at Toshi Ranbo and Permission City number of Hantei supporters in both Dragon and Scorpion exceeded Toturi supporters but at Lonely Shore City both numbers were nearly equal. Unicorn, Lion, Crab and Crane remain united. Mantis and Phoenix have divided loyalties but on strong favor of side they have chosen.
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Post by Shoju on Oct 7, 2011 14:06:42 GMT -5
Spider numbers are still misleading (though i understand including them for completeness). I'm hoping that our newly minted RP's with the Hantei clans find common ground to aid in the defense of the Hantei.
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Asahina Yukihime
Crane Clan
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Post by Asahina Yukihime on Oct 7, 2011 15:26:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I understand it 100% >.o (language issues... or, I'm not a war oriented player). But I really don't see why Castle of Swiftly sword would be better defended than Sea Watch Castle, for instance >.o
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Kitsuki Zatoichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Zatoichi on Oct 7, 2011 15:28:52 GMT -5
TO WAR SAMURAIS!
"We cannot allow the Shogun to cut us off from the mountains and trap us here. We must fall back to the river and offer battle there!"
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Oct 7, 2011 15:53:46 GMT -5
Well I don't really like the options given and how the situation has been viewed, but this is Jay's creation. It's like a son to him so I'll respect him.
I guess my opinion matters little now since it's late to reply to his question.
But for my part as one who has been communicating with people in the Dragon and the Hantei side, I think this was not how we viewed things.
Yes, we will be in between two armies when the time comes. But to say that we would be the only one who is in a pinch is kind of a slap to the intelligence of the Dragon.
We set up a rally point at Kyuden Tonbo. Tactically a higher point than that of Drowned Merchant River. Since we're just scouting and probing Castle of the Swift Sword, I would assume that parts of our forces are still at Kyuden Tonbo. It would be advantageous and quite easy for our yamabushi to drop rocks from Kyuden Tonbo at the shogun's armies.
Also we were first at Drowned Merchant River. I think our officers would have been smart enough to put up traps/delays at that location. It's just like the quote on the new Spell - Earth Flows says, the one from Akodo's leadership, "Control the terrain, control the battle."
If the Lion people should get to whine that they have the biggest army and are the Masters of War (which I do not contest), then it should also pass that the Dragon and the Phoenix as Masters of Magic should be able to focus on those fields during this war. Guess I just find it ironic that this vote now happened mostly because non Hantei supporters werent happy with the results.
Guess that's all I have to say. Whatever happens, happens. If I've offended anybody I apologize and will retract what I've said.
As for the vote, guess my obvious choice would be to storm the castle.
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Oct 7, 2011 16:04:28 GMT -5
I'm concerned as well with the timing of this vote. It depicts that the Dragon officers have not been thinking of Kaneka all along. What happens when the Dragon end up choosing to attack Kaneka? Do all our efforts of jading and even emeralding the attack actions on castle of the swift sword just go to waste?
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Oct 7, 2011 16:08:28 GMT -5
really? I thought this vote happened because of the dragon clan saying they didn't like the position they were in. At least that was my perception of things. My perception of toturists being upset about the dragon army being there was because the dragon army was there to kill them. I would be upset too? o.O
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Oct 7, 2011 16:08:44 GMT -5
Didn't the Dragon already have the option to attack Toturi? I could swear that was a voting option before that wasn't picked....
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Kitsuki Zatoichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Kitsuki Zatoichi on Oct 7, 2011 16:11:29 GMT -5
Let's strike them Koichi-Sama! I'm not really happy with the options too, but i'm choosing to go back to the river! We can have our victory for once!
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Oct 7, 2011 16:14:20 GMT -5
Didn't the Dragon already have the option to attack Toturi? I could swear that was a voting option before that wasn't picked.... No. Options that didn't get picked were 1.) Reinforce the Emerald Champion and 2.) Defend the mountains
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Bayushi Haruka
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Haruka on Oct 7, 2011 16:14:31 GMT -5
I'm concerned as well with the timing of this vote. It depicts that the Dragon officers have not been thinking of Kaneka all along. What happens when the Dragon end up choosing to attack Kaneka? Do all our efforts of jading and even emeralding the attack actions on castle of the swift sword just go to waste? At the time everyone was on the unknown grounds of not knowing where everyone's army was headed. Toturi was still in vote at the same time the Dragon were and the situation could've easily gone the northern route or southern to deal with the Scorpion. This is more of a portrayal of the willingness to focus on the ever changing battlefield. I would assume if the vote did go to assail Kaneka directly then the efforts against the Lion wouldn't be wasted, but I suspect the real fight with the Lion would have to simply wait until after the (successful?) heading off of Kaneka's group.
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