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Post by The Blue Ronin on Jan 3, 2012 22:58:24 GMT -5
"again I'm a hantei supporter :3."
Quoted for humour.
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Jan 4, 2012 0:05:18 GMT -5
"again I'm a hantei supporter :3." Quoted for humour. LOL. It's nice to see that it wasn't just me who laughed upon reading that.
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Kakita Sojiro
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Post by Kakita Sojiro on Jan 4, 2012 2:14:00 GMT -5
I kinda had the same thought
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Jan 4, 2012 7:21:02 GMT -5
Wow, maybe 2012 will be a less-headache year. Everyone is trying to play nice. *happy*
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Jan 4, 2012 8:10:42 GMT -5
For Toturi Supporters needing light cavalry: 1. If you have lances and spare recruits you can Train Troops with a Lance in Shiro Shinjo (requires Chui). It drops light cavalry with 100% chance and there is some chance for droping scouts (about 30%). 10 fate, 1 glory. 2. In Shiro Morito you can Ride with the Morito. For 5 fate you get 1 glory and about 50% chance for Light Cavalry and about 20-30% chance for lance. EDIT: Corrected chances for Ride with Mojito
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Enishi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Enishi on Jan 4, 2012 8:27:20 GMT -5
Ride with the Mojitos makes Arrival of the Unicorn actually slighltly better than Fire Blosoms. This is going to be a very interesting battle, definitely not the moment for Hantei supporters to sit back and relax! May the most honorable win
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Jan 4, 2012 9:25:13 GMT -5
Mmmm. I wouldn't mind having a mojito right now. *Looks at Honor leader board* Mostly Hantei supporters. Guess that settles that.
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Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on Jan 5, 2012 2:08:45 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but in what backwards universe could anyone possibly consider Medium Infantry "easy to get"? The sheer gulf between acquiring 1-2 of them versus a single Alchemical Elixir would be comical if people weren't trying to pretend that it didn't exist.
And who cares about one side having more actions the other? The number of actions available to a side is largely irrelevant. The bulk of force for a side comes from a single action: whichever happens to be the most efficient of the set available. For Hantei, that's clearly Fire Blossoms. For Toturi, it was Prepare for Battle. Now, of course, our efficient action is gone (for sensible reasons) while Fire Blossoms is still around.
And are people seriously complaining that they "only" gain 2 glory per attempt at farming an elixir? It's glory-positive, which is more than can be said for a lot of easy-farming actions in this game. Not much of a sacrifice.
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Enishi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Enishi on Jan 5, 2012 3:57:43 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but in what backwards universe could anyone possibly consider Medium Infantry "easy to get"? Oh, it's not. The comparison is more with 1-2 light cavalry, which according to Shigekazu's numbers are just as easy to get. I guess opinions may vary. I feel that in a game where part of the player base is hunting ring tokens, having more actions is a great boost. It's less effective on players that are ready to grind the same action for months on end, but not every one will fit into that category. The fact that the "super easy" Fire blosoms only make up for 44% of total Hantei clicks supports this idea in my humble opinion. You may want to reconsider that with Shigekazu's input. The man has a good record of being right about action drops I think there's a slight misunderstanding here: you don't get glory for farming elixirs at all. The 2 Glory are for using them, and it's not that good as far as battle actions go. I know I don't really care about Glory, but others do, so again, your mileage may vary.
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Jan 5, 2012 4:38:21 GMT -5
But still there is case of deleted actions: Toturi lost ~12700 points (67%) Hantei lost ~6400 points (14%)
And although Hantei forces are surrounded, cutted from supplies or reinforcements and badly outnumbered, they still have greater chances for victory than greatest strategist of the Empire (Kaneka) leading his personal legions and army of third (after Lion and Crab) most militant Clan.
I wonder how Hanteist could survive. Winter is coming, they are cutted from supplies and they have lost their previous camp (either captured or moved to ensure protection from new forces). Blocking the fortess is now surely ended because it requires spreading own forces around the walls - impossible thing when you are surrounded by stronger and more mobile enemy. This is not siege of Alesia - Dragons are not Crabs and cannot quickly build strong double fortifications using very disciplined forces.
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Post by Hida Joji on Jan 5, 2012 4:47:39 GMT -5
Just think 300 movie, what happened to the misterious looking dudes with exploding flasks?
Now we just need to get the Unicorn and the Lion in red underpants!
Thx for the info, I was going to try "riding with the east wind", since it drops favors and light cavalry. With favors I'd max the Khan audience and get some more Light cavalry.
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Post by Akodo Tsanuri on Jan 5, 2012 8:03:11 GMT -5
let me see... so now Toturi has about 6000 and Hantei 36700 clicks, taking in what Shigekazu-san wrote, rigth? it's like 6 times more, right?
we have soooo much chances to catch you now...
I intended to fight here, but now with numbers clear there is no point in losing fate on it
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Jan 5, 2012 10:56:38 GMT -5
The expired actions (which have been removed) are no longer counted. Old actions that are still there DO count.
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Post by Hida Joji on Jan 5, 2012 11:52:01 GMT -5
Ok, I think this is the battle to win!
It's a Toturi's Army, the guy who was Lion champion, fell in disgrace, defeated Fu-Leng, became emporer, died and still came back without Jennifer L-H!
I pledge my (tainted) support to the fight! I will click away like a madman until I can't see another light cavalry in front of me!
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Takezo
Dragon Clan
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Post by Takezo on Jan 5, 2012 14:30:02 GMT -5
Takezo stands upon a hill, the horse-trampled grass slicked in blood, swords in either hand. The grime upon his face is traced in tears and sweat and blood as he looks upon the fallen, many of them Dragon, Mirumoto bushi whom he had trained from boyhood. The walls of the Castle of the Swift Sword flicker with shadows and light as fire explodes everywhere, the very air rent by its thundering and by the cries of men and the crash of hoofbeats. Gazing out, the warriors of Toturi and Hantei crash together like waves, as though seas might war with one another.What can be better than hopeless odds? If you prevail, it is the stuff of legend. If you fail, it is the best death a Samurai can offer.
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