Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
Posts: 922
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Post by Tamori Manji on Jan 18, 2012 18:15:51 GMT -5
It's not that I'm backing this argument now, I have never denied it. Of course this is a clicking game, its on facebook, what did you expect? Even MMOs are "clicking games", why would a facebook game avoid that fate?
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Takezo
Dragon Clan
Shugyosha, Loyal retainer of Toturi, Dragon Champion-in-exile
Posts: 415
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Post by Takezo on Jan 18, 2012 20:29:28 GMT -5
I'd have to say that my experience of the game is rather "role-playing", regardless of the clickiness of it.
I've definitely developed a "sense" of Takezo over time, and he's even changed and had dynamic "life", as one finds as an RPG campaign develops. Takezo's characterization certainly affects what he clicks.
Granted, this is the first-and-only FB game I've played (and only because I happen to know Jay and Alison personally, so I knew it would have a strong narrative element), and I have never played the card game (or any other of these species of card games, ie. no Magic, Pokemon, etc.) so I might have a greater likelihood to sublimate the game into a RP framework.
tl;dr version: even in the absence of the forum, Takezo would have a "character".
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
Posts: 922
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Post by Tamori Manji on Jan 18, 2012 20:44:12 GMT -5
I gotta agree with Takezo in this, which is why I pretty much will never allow Manji to become Tainted and have kept him away from infamous actions. And I know a handful of others who play this way (I mean, they only participate in actions that their characters would participate. Yukihime is a good example, Hiromitsu is another).
So, do we have a clicky-game? sure we do. That doesn't stop people from roleplaying though, even those who aren't on the forums. Another example, there's a polish woman in my dynasty who plays a Kitsuki investigator (Kitsuki Zimnesuki, she's the one I quote in my sig, I'm kinda fond of her for some reason). Even though she doesn't participate in the forums, because she doesn't have the time for it, we eventually have fun by roleplaying a bit in some of our conversations (like during the new year, when we RPed as if we were watching the fireworks in the Winter Court and talking about the war).
tl;dr: the mechanical aspects of the game determine what happens, true. But that doesn't stop people, even those not in the forums, from thinking what their characters would do and roleplaying with one another.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
This person sometimes posts things that are tl;dr
Courtier Magistrate Ambassador Daimyo
Posts: 1,140
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jan 19, 2012 3:54:43 GMT -5
I've chatted to her too Manji. She is lovely
I have to concur with the above comments - not because they are from other Dragon players - but because I genuinely believe the same. Things Hime wouldn't do I don't click. She will not have taint or infamy. She isn't going to level up the more dishonourable skills. It isn't her nature enough. I hope the game is seen as more than a click exercise to some!
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Post by Shokuma on Jan 19, 2012 8:19:40 GMT -5
While I tend to take a slightly more flexible view of "in-character" limitation vs. statistical gains, the majority of choices I make in the clicking game are based on the outlook of the old character whose name I use (a character from a 1st Ed game run from the City of Lies box). However, it is the players here on the forum and their characters that have, by bringing the game alive, caused that very character to question the teachings of her sensei and to change.
Many of us spend a lot of our spare time playing games on computers (Skyrim, WOW, SW: ToR, as well as EE), and they are ALL about clicking keys and mouse buttons, yet in our minds are our characters, and they are what make the games interesting, and drive the choices in-game.
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Post by Shoju on Jan 19, 2012 9:51:04 GMT -5
Aroru, you are right, there is no action that will have 0 clicks.
But there are plenty of players who will have 0 clicks on actions. Even me, the spider player, there are actions I just don't take in the click game, because it isn't something that Shoju would ever do.
Sure, that's arbitrary to an extent, because I'm currently going gung ho in winter court, and Shoju wont be "going" to winter court this year, but he would. He could. I just don't have time in the RP to do so.
But, I don't do a LOT of jobs because they are things that SHoju just wouldn't do. I don't have a Scorpion ally. I don't have tons of Air Rings, because I'm not much of a "merchant" type.
Its all about the limits that people want to go for. If I honestly felt that I, as a Spider could impact the game in some other way than planting myself in the same location for 30 days and not moving, I wouldn't even bother with winter court.
But the fact of the matter, is that I want to see my efforts amount to something, and this is where I've decided to try.
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
Posts: 625
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Jan 19, 2012 11:06:21 GMT -5
...and I'm the least tainted Samurai in Rokugan. However, the less than 200 active members of this forum(using a generous definition of active) do not make up a majority of players in this game. It's easy to think of it that way since these are the people we interact with the most. We also all probably know non forum posters who make "in character" decisions. Ask Jay for the #'s of how many people play this game though and see if you come up with us representing even a significant portion of that.
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Post by Hida Joji on Jan 20, 2012 10:44:58 GMT -5
...and I'm the least tainted Samurai in Rokugan. ... Shame on you. I thought you scorpion types did anything and everything to serve your lord to the best of your ability? Get a new set of abilities and you will serve him better!
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Post by Hida Joji on Jan 20, 2012 10:52:39 GMT -5
As reply to the previous posts I click anything and everything I can, I found myself taintedand infamous in the early levels so I decided to run with it. From a gamist point-of-view I collect tokens to get more Fate to click more... simple. If an objective presents it self, I follow it. The idea I have for Hida Joji 90% of the time has nothing to do with what I'm clicking.
ATM I'm commited to turning the CotSS around and I'm working on it since it's a "marriage" between Hida Joji and actions I like.
plus
KANEKA, KANEKA, KANEKA!
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Post by Shoju on Jan 20, 2012 12:21:26 GMT -5
And in a similar fashion to Joji, I have blown through more fate on 2 actions at Winter Court than most people, and probably by a very wide margin. I'm determined to make a good showing.
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