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Post by Hida Joji on Mar 13, 2012 13:12:44 GMT -5
... EDIT: This was not the first 1 click only contest. The previous Assassination Attempt of the Phoenix Ambassador in Kyuden Bayushi was also a one click contest. Tottaly missed that... If there is precedent and it worked before then, for my part, it's my bad I didn't make my opinion known at that time.
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Post by Shoju on Mar 13, 2012 13:21:27 GMT -5
No, you are fine.
The thing about that attempt, was that there was no question about how long the contest was going to last. It was a 1 click and done as well, but no one was left thinking that it was going to be over in a few days, the way people were led to believe with this.
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Post by Takezo on Mar 13, 2012 14:15:11 GMT -5
No, you are fine. The thing about that attempt, was that there was no question about how long the contest was going to last. It was a 1 click and done as well, but no one was left thinking that it was going to be over in a few days, the way people were led to believe with this. The duel to resolve the Trade Route dispute was a one-click event with no pre-stated time limit; that's the only other one I can think of. I actually think it's a good idea - makes players have to balance preparation versus necessity of action. Very martial
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Post by Shoju on Mar 13, 2012 14:25:18 GMT -5
Which further reinstates the point, that the (we'll call it....) implied time restriction on this feels off.
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Mar 13, 2012 16:16:09 GMT -5
Takezo is right, this is the third time there has been a one click competition.
1. Trade Route existing, yes or no. 2. Hantei Ambassador dieing, yes or no. 3. Doji Bride dieing, yes or no.
While we recognize Jay-sama can not always follow a rigid schedule for the length of events, he is usually good at mentioning a competition ending one update earlier. Giving players one last week to wrap up their activities with it, in theory.
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Post by Bayushi Hiryu on Mar 14, 2012 13:29:02 GMT -5
Which further reinstates the point, that the (we'll call it....) implied time restriction on this feels off. Indeed... I can understand that a GM may want to tell a particular tale and tweak events to fit his story, though, even though it feels unfair to most of the participants on one side. Hiryu, Scorpion GM
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Mar 14, 2012 14:15:28 GMT -5
...This isn't a role-playing game. It's not like a GM is fudging rolls to get the results he wants. It's a facebook game and any game that offers players a choice in how it's made and then renigs on that choice is going to lose people. That really doesn't apply in this case though. I don't think anyone believes Jay was intentionally misleading people. It was an oversight, most likely generated from him just re-opening the action from last year without updating the text.
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Post by Shoju on Mar 14, 2012 14:19:07 GMT -5
...This isn't a role-playing game. It's not like a GM is fudging rolls to get the results he wants. It's a facebook game and any game that offers players a choice in how it's made and then renigs on that choice is going to lose people. That really doesn't apply in this case though. I don't think anyone believes Jay was intentionally misleading people. It was an oversight, most likely generated from him just re-opening the action from last year without updating the text. Yes. I think people are looking at the point that Aroru and I are making and thinking that we feel this was done on purpose. Instead of trying to say it better, I just quoted and bolded.
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Post by Tamori Manji on Mar 15, 2012 5:22:36 GMT -5
Just for the record, and considering all the previous competitions mentioned by Kiso and Takezo, I agree with you guys. Now let the chips fall where they may. I've made my bet but I do think there may still be time for those wishing to see Domotai-chan dead to turn the result around (I hope not but I won't be losing any sleep over it in case it happens).
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Post by Hida Joji on Mar 15, 2012 5:49:25 GMT -5
I always saw Kitsuki under a Sherlock/Poirrot/CSI fashion explaining on a court why venerable-not-under-suspicion must be guilty based on his kimono thread and colouring instead of testemony... aka spot the ninja after the deed! Not before!
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Post by Isawa Okibi on Mar 15, 2012 12:02:33 GMT -5
Or they could do it Columbo style and follow/harrass the disguised ninja with innocent questions until the entire plan is suddenly revealed to everyone. Of course Columbo also caught them after the crime.
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Post by Hida Joji on Mar 15, 2012 12:38:17 GMT -5
Legend of the 5 cRImiNalGs!
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Post by Jay Luo on Mar 20, 2012 17:13:34 GMT -5
Heya all, I'm sorry for the confusion that was apparently generated. I had originally intended that the Iris Festival should only last a short time and the assassination event would be resolved at the same time, but did not get around to closing it until today. I really have no excuse. It wasn't my intention for this to be misleading - I simply was slow to update the situation at Benten Seido. That said, I need to move forward with the contest as it currently stands; anything else would be even more unfair.
I'll try to be more cautious about promising timeframes for things in the future. Very sorry about that!
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Mar 20, 2012 17:45:35 GMT -5
...Actually no, anything else wouldn't be even more unfair. After already massively screwing up the time frame you could at least give a warning to the ending. A surprise ending is not the best way to end this.
...I really want to know, how much time does it take to end an action? You always seem to end an action and add new stuff at the same time. It keeps leading to things going on way too long. Why can't you end an action and then post new stuff/results when you have time?
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Post by Shoju on Mar 20, 2012 22:10:53 GMT -5
While I agree that this is an unfortunate result, I just want to make sure that people understand that this discussion needs to remain civil, and a discussion.
I'm not accusing anyone of stepping out of line. I'm simply reminding people, in both threads, that the discussion will need to stay on topic, and civil.
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