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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 15, 2011 10:48:06 GMT -5
But what problem do you have with titles? If you really want it - put it in your "personal text" then.
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Post by agashataeshik on Jan 15, 2011 11:03:24 GMT -5
Heya, did you accidently post to the wrong thread? Not sure what that has to do with he current discussion....
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 15, 2011 11:43:13 GMT -5
A lot. If you think carefully about it
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Post by agashataeshik on Jan 15, 2011 11:47:27 GMT -5
No, thought about it. Nothing at all. We're talking about roleplaying, not a title text.
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Post by tadakasan on Jan 15, 2011 12:06:11 GMT -5
*nods* If putting "Jade Champion" in your personal text made you the Jade Champion, we could have dozens of people walking around claiming the title. Also can I put "Kami" in my personal text and be a god? *chuckles*
Anyways, I think that's Taekshik-san's point; There are certain "titles" that are more official and singular. Just like I'm sure you wouldn't want anyone else putting "Almightly Master of the FAQ Team" in their personal text.
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Yoritomo Raiden
Mantis Clan Mod
Mantis Clan - Shugenja - Water - Thunder - Damiyo - Not Kolat
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Post by Yoritomo Raiden on Jan 15, 2011 14:39:50 GMT -5
just a thought, in the future the clan champ could be determined by glory while daimyos could be honor
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Post by Togashi Homsar on Jan 15, 2011 17:44:03 GMT -5
I am Spartacus!
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Bayushi Senshi
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan * Clan Champion * Samurai * Kensai * Experienced * Loyal * Unique
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jan 15, 2011 18:10:54 GMT -5
I absolutely just exalted you for that Homsar. You made my day. My only problem then with your suggestion then, Taeshik, is that we could have too many people running around with the same title. I worked hard to become Scorpion Champion, for example, but if I was unaware of this rp initiative you were running for people who want their own titles, and saw someone else claiming to be the keeper of secrets that wasn't even in the Scorp top ten, (and if I wanted to be a tool about it) I'd not be too pleased.
Also, I don't want to rule out that there may not be a future means for determining certain titles. Would you, for example, stop carrying the title of "Jade Champion" if there was a jade tournament that you did not win? (I don't even know if there is a jade tourny so I may be sounding stoopid:P)
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Post by Bayushi Matashi on Jan 15, 2011 19:11:12 GMT -5
I second the words of my clan's glorious champion; we in the Scorpion clan have found a more diplomatic means of acquiring distinction in these lands. Perhaps it is more effective to be reasonable about such matters rather than merely claiming titles of distinction.
I have no doubt that there may be none more qualified to claim the title of Jade Champion in these lands, but from my reading, it has not been a position merely claimed by dictum since the first Jade Champion was named Kuni Tokaji. There is most often a test of the Jade Champion which Asahina Sekawa most recently won in 1158.
Should there not be a test in the same vein to determine who is the most powerful and most worthy overseer of magic within our lands?
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Daigotsu Hayato
Spider Clan
Spider Clan ? Samurai ? Shadowlands ? Duelist ? Lost ? Exerienced ? Unique ?
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Post by Daigotsu Hayato on Jan 15, 2011 19:46:04 GMT -5
Think of it this way. You're playing their game, you're using boards created for their game. Why not follow their guidance? They have provided a lot of framework and a lot of open room to move around.
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Post by Jay Luo on Jan 15, 2011 22:57:24 GMT -5
We've had the convention that the highest glory character of each clan is the Clan Champion of that clan, and the person with the highest earth/water/air/fire/void ring is the "Master of " that element. Some characters could legitimately claim to be Topaz Champion at this point, also. However, as the high score standings can change frequently, I don't expect the forum moderators will assign these as forum titles, as it would be a lot of work to maintain.
There isn't currently a way to officially become the Emerald Champion, Jade Champion, Imperial Herald, etc., in the game, and there might never be. Many of the high ranking Imperial positions should probably be reserved for NPCs. As a result, I don't think the forum mods will consider it appropriate to assign these as official forum titles.
On the other hand, if someone wants to make their signature block something like "Kitsu Okura, Jade Champion", or even "Hantei XVI, the Steel Chrysanthemum, Emperor of Rokugan", I don't think anyone is really going to stop them. However, such assumed titles may very well get contradicted by the "official" game canon at some point, and might or might not get respected by other players.
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Post by agashataeshik on Jan 16, 2011 1:33:54 GMT -5
Senshi, in response to your two questions, what people title themselves isnt important. Like i said, i am talking about roleplaying, not text. If you claim Scorpion Daimyo as your title, and you want to roleplay with me as such, I accept it. If someone else also claims the position, only then do i look at something to decide which should be the Scorpion Daimyo, and I along with whomever else is roleplaying decide which player is the Scorpion Daimyo for the purpose of our game. If highest glory is the standard, then the Scorpion with the highest Glory (who is roleplaying that aspect) is the Scorpion Daimyo for the game.
If there is a Jade competition, and someone else wins it, and they want to roleplay that position with our group, then I find myself in a different position, most likely/hopefully as an Elemental Master for my clan.
Jay, thanks for the idea of forum title, but for now we are only talking about building an RPG group from your game, so forum titles dont need to apply yet, though if this game does get started, getting recognized witeh forum titles would be awesome.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 16, 2011 4:14:47 GMT -5
No, thought about it. Nothing at all. We're talking about roleplaying, not a title text. I know. But for RP you don't need titles. And I feel that this is the core of the whole discussion here. My dear Agasha Taeshik, I have a weird feeling that you just wants to recive it and this is why you started this commotion. Isawa Tadaka - I don't care if all of you put my personal text in yours. People already know who's the real master here. If you want - go ahead, feel free. I don't mind. For now I am totally against handing positions to players other than Champions (chosen by glory or voting of the whole clan). *gives a cookie to Daigotsu Hayato* I think that titles should not be given now. You could live without it for a month or so on the old forum, you can survive without it for some time. When more people register here that thing would be probably considered again. For now, to me, picking Champions is the most important thing. And each Clan (if not finished it yet) has to decide if they want to pick the most glorious person of their clan, or someone who would be a great champion in the eyes of all members of that clan. Simple.
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Post by agashataeshik on Jan 16, 2011 4:25:17 GMT -5
I don't think we're talking about the same thing... you're talking about Forum titles?
I'm talking about roleplaying. My character -is- Jade Champion in my story, I don't need others to authenticate it. I'm not looking for authentication from others, I'm looking to have people join my story. And if another Jade Champion joins my story, my story will likely get back-edited so that I'm something other than the Jade Champion, or their story will change.
So, nothing to do with actual titles, just roleplaying. And in the roleplaying game, what our titles are, not what they are on a forum, defined by dev, or even game-mechanics (especially not game-mechanics since we're all Dragon Tattoo'd Monk Magistrate Masters of all existing Shugenja and Samurai schools in the realm with the ability to cast spells and win in all Kyujitsu, Kenjutsu, and Iajitsu contests who all ride great steeds of the Unicorn while hunting Maho and participating in Topaz championships).
If the game-mechanics support our game, all the better, but that's not the objective.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jan 16, 2011 4:33:07 GMT -5
So I don't get the problem you "raised" here. Just say "I am looking for people to RP. I am Jade Champion in my story, period". Because me and many people here felt it like you were trying to get Jay and Alison (plus admins) to grant you titles for the forum. But you used a wrong section then. Go to General Discussion and start your thread there. Find people and when you are ready - you can open a new thread somewhere around in a proper place for your game. You can even ask Mr. Crab Admin to open you a new subforum, closed to people not in your game and so on.
And I believe this would end this topic.
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