Jade Champion

[agashataeshik]

Rather than continue what may turn into a heated discussion on the othher thread, thought i would put my thoughts together on what qualifications should be required of a Jade Champion, characterwise.

My first thougt was in response to the Glory qualification needed for any rank. Thing is, Glory is the easiest thing to raise, my respect to the more balanced characters who have other stats that resemble their Glory. while I totally understand people being more interested in Glory than anything else, not only because it seems to be the focus of the game (clan selection on the Champions shows only Glory), but because it means you are beating stuff up, and combat is cooler than classrooms for a ch aracter.

But to be Jade, or Emerald, or Shogun, or whatever, you really need to look at more than 1 stat. Maybe a minimum level (100? Meaning nobody could be one yet), definitely minimum ranks in rings (8?), and a minimum in both glory (at least ranked in top ten for your clan), as well as Honor (ranked top ten overall?), in addition to a skill requisite to show you really are a Shugenja (100 without items?)

So, having puty thoughts to text ( was thinking it as i typed it, not premeditated writing) I think those should be the requisites for Jade Champion

level 100
Spellcraft 100
Honor top ten overall
Glory top ten in clan
Minimum rank of 8 in all rings

This means i, nor anybody else me thinks, qualifies yet, but one that is attainable by me within a weeks time i think... Cept maybe the level, not sure what xp cost it is to level 100, i am only level 86, and will hopefully have rank 10 in all rings by then.... And a spellcraft of 200 without items so maybe even those numbers are a bit too low...

[Hida Setsuro]

I think your idea is pretty cool, but in the end it's up to Alison and Jay. Still, your idea definitely has merit.

[agashataeshik]

Again, not necessarily asking for permission, even from J and A, though if they solidify ideas here in game mechanics, thatd be cool. Its like if 5 of my friends and i played the game and decided (roleplaying wise) our ranks. Developers dont need to know or do anything about it, its roleplaying. Posting here is to see if other people are interested in roleplaying as such, not to seek out coded game mechanics that enforce it. I am assuming youve never roleplayed on a forum before, especially in the sort of game where players just assume agreed roles. Killing these threads with your no's before those like minded get a chance to join in on the ideas is a bit annoying.

Again, not trying to build anything official, trying to build a roleplaying aspect to this game, an add-on of sorts, just for people interested in roleplaying. Feel free to enforce neutrality in discussions, but please stop posting on these threads if youre not interested in playing with any of us that are into roleplaying vs mechanics

[Hida Setsuro]

I'm definitely into roleplaying, Taeshik. I was definitely roleplaying on the other boards, too. I play the L5R RPG as well, but you're posting in an open thread in an open area. Try not to tell people to stop posting Make it in a private area if you're going to say that.

Just try and remember that I'm here to make sure certain rules are met. Respect for the staff, developers and the board being one of them. In character is one thing - some guys are rude, some are annoying, some are smart, some are beautiful, etc etc. Toshi Ranbo is a safe place for all.

[Tamori Koichi]

I qualify!!! (except the level part)

Taeshik-san, it is nice how devoted you are to role-playing this part, but I hope you do realize that from the pre-requisites you've given, you have excluded about 99% of the shugenja role-players in the game. There's only 3 shugenja who qualify for top ten most honorable: You, Me, and Asahina Miyagi. Miyagi-san isn't on the top ten most glorious of the Crane. So that just leaves the two of us.

As beneficial as a 50-50% chance at the Jade Championship would be for me, I wouldn't like or more so enjoy it. I would like other role-players to have a chance to play as well.

-Tamori Koichi

[agashataeshik]

Yeah, i was thinking ere might be a couple of others that might qualify, especially miyagi, but am also hoping i was the only one to put half of all his points into spellcraft since thats pretty much what would be required to have attained a 200 in spellcraft. Short of the firwt couple of levels, i always put 2 points into spellcraft just for theme.

And considering i am like 2k xp from top ten, hoping using mysrlf as a standard would lbe a good thing.

Sorry for all the typos, ipad keyboard hard to use...

Anyhows, wont kill me if i dont get Jade, i love the Elemental master positions just as much...

[Tamori Koichi]

For the record, I have base 200 Spellcraft as well. And most probably, we aren't the only ones who have done that.

[agashataeshik]

Fascinating, mine isnt 200 yet, barely 160 without items... I raised a lot of skills purely to map the game out, maybe i should fo us more on spellcraft....

[Bayushi Senshi]

To clarify then, you do mean a raw spellcraft of 200, right? Not including whatever outfit you may be wearing that day? Also I feel that such a position should only be available to shugenja. My class is a bushi, but I still have a decent amount of courtier and spellcraft (I do not believe I should qualify for any shugenja position, however.) And by the by, I'm all for positions in EE so long as its agreed to by everyone. Your requirements would make sense to me if it was something sanctioned by the developers, but I know thats not what you were looking for "not looking for permission". I think the requirements set a good guideline though, perhaps the two of you should trade a debate and then a poll posted (and whoever else may wish for the position)? This way it can be verified as to who is the jade champion?

[Tamori Koichi]

@senshi-sama, are you talking to me? If yes, then my answer is yes. I have raw spellcraft of 200. I also have to agree that the position be available only to shugenja.

[tadakasan]

You know, that's the weird part to me; I know this isn't the RPG, but in every version of the game I've played it's not Spellcraft that determines your connection with the Kami, it's your insight rank (level) and rings. It seems odd to me that a level 10 shugenja who chooses to put all their skillpoints into spellcraft is better at importuning the Kami than my character.

That said, if it is the measure of your connection with the elemental kami, then 100 spellcraft seems reasonable to me for a base measure.

[Tamori Koichi]

Tadaka-san, Taeshik did include level and rings as basis for determining a possible Jade Champion.

Jan 15, 2011 4:55:19 GMT -5 @agashataeshik said:

level 100
Minimum rank of 8 in all rings

[tadakasan]

Yes, he did. The discussion merely seemed to be focusing around spellpower is all. Was just a note, not only for this but for the game itself (magical actions only check spellcraft).

[agashataeshik]

Thats mostly because once you reach a certain ring level, which i think is 8, further progression in most rings (all except air which is seemingly the highest across the board), is almost negligible. I think we might all get to 10 at some point, but not much higher. As such, a requisite of 8 just insures you are actually playing the game, not just focusing on the best fate to xp ration mission for rapid progression in spellcraft. After all, a level 50 player could meet the 200 spellcraft requisite.

[Daigotsu Tsuneki]

I don't think Honor should be a determining factor for any of the 3 positions mentioned (JC, EC and Shogun). I mean, have you looked at the currents holders of this positions in the current official timeline ? Jin-Sahn is the most honorable of those guys, and he isn't quite a paragon of honor.