Shiba Kazuma
Phoenix Clan Mod
Phoenix Clan Champion?Samurai?Shiba's Soul?Unique?Enlightened
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Post by Shiba Kazuma on Apr 8, 2011 4:44:23 GMT -5
You could always do some other action there to get rallying cries for heavy infantry, so it's not really as dire as all that. The random encounter just prevents you from moving, not from doing any other actions in the area. I hit the random encounter right as I was about to leave because I had exhausted all of my other resources. Rallying Cry seems to be a lot harder to get now then it used to be. That and it seems that every time I did get it I either got medium infantry or archers.
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Kitsu Natsuki
Lion Clan
Lion Clan * Daimyo * Shugenja * Sodan-senzo * Loyal * Ambassador to the Dragon
Posts: 162
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Post by Kitsu Natsuki on Apr 8, 2011 5:09:22 GMT -5
Ooh, that was rather unlucky then. I seem to be having the opposite drop rate, with Rallying Cry dropping a lot more often than Heroic Opportunities, so I'm just building up my forces with it for now.
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Ojii
Dragon Clan
RONIN - Former Dragon Clan Sensei
Posts: 375
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Post by Ojii on Apr 8, 2011 6:47:17 GMT -5
You can get archer and Medium enfantry with Rallying Cry, it new! If its true thats good, those are wath i miss the most! Can you confirm please Natsuki?
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Kakita Shinji
Crane Clan
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone
Posts: 485
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Post by Kakita Shinji on Apr 8, 2011 7:30:31 GMT -5
Rallying Cry drops 1-2 Medium infantry, 1-2 Heavy infantry and 1-2 archers.
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Ojii
Dragon Clan
RONIN - Former Dragon Clan Sensei
Posts: 375
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Post by Ojii on Apr 8, 2011 7:57:08 GMT -5
THANKS! I was seeking them with the recruit... its gonna be a lot faster!
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Post by utakumoli on Apr 8, 2011 8:41:42 GMT -5
I just ran into the random encounter Encircled Terrain. I just have one thing to say. Never, ever, ever, ever X infinity not have heavy infantry or battle plans.-100 Glory, -10 Honor, 10 Infamy is one choice and death is the other should you not have either of those two items above. As a result of having to do this myself (you do not realize how tempted I was to choose death here) I now have 13 infamy and no dragon ally. Jay are you going to be adding this back in or is there another way to get rid of Infamy? That's sadistically awesome, since those are the two item costs for Command the Army. Guess being Kaneka's friend ain't all its cracked up to be. Thank you for the head's up Shiba-sama. Moyotoshi Mwahahaha..... *steeples fingers* Yesss... Goood, goooooood....
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Apr 8, 2011 10:28:37 GMT -5
Hmm... is it only me or that brilliant whatever droping rate is really low? I am using everything I have... doing every single job there that can give it to me... and I am in the middle... of nowhere. From yesterday didn't get any (and using ALL fate I have everytime it's close to refilling). Heck this is really... pain in my back. *pouts* Good that I have collected so many items that can be used now... *sighs* Re up somewhere: Rallying Cry is much easier to get than HO. It's a fact for me
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Ojii
Dragon Clan
RONIN - Former Dragon Clan Sensei
Posts: 375
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Post by Ojii on Apr 8, 2011 10:56:59 GMT -5
I have over 120 Rallying Cry ... and for the rest its the same situation as you!!! Not much drop since yesterday, that dam general is running away! Can i borrow your stead for a while ;-)
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Shosuro Motoyami
Scorpion Clan
I am neither madman nor fool. If you dare to cross the Scorpion, I am the consequence you must face
Posts: 155
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Post by Shosuro Motoyami on Apr 8, 2011 12:55:39 GMT -5
Utaku-san,
As Jay and others have said MWK is suppose to be the climatic finish to this whole plot thread, and not something to be finished in just a single day. I've gotten pretty much every mission now to emerald (except cavalry charge..grrr) in the quest for more HO's and BV's. Right now, I've got Attack the General at 40% complete with two BV's in my inventory, so I'm one BV short of being halfway done.
I've managed to burn through my recruited medium infantry, heavy infantry, archers, and prayers... all of which were in the 150-200 range.
All of which is to say, the new Changes Jay made have made MWK awesome, if resource intensive.
Moyotoshi
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Takezo
Dragon Clan
Shugyosha, Loyal retainer of Toturi, Dragon Champion-in-exile
Posts: 415
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Post by Takezo on Apr 8, 2011 17:53:39 GMT -5
Hmm... is it only me or that brilliant whatever droping rate is really low? I am using everything I have... doing every single job there that can give it to me... and I am in the middle... of nowhere. From yesterday didn't get any (and using ALL fate I have everytime it's close to refilling). Heck this is really... pain in my back. *pouts* Good that I have collected so many items that can be used now... *sighs* Re up somewhere: Rallying Cry is much easier to get than HO. It's a fact for me I'm getting a 32% drop rate for BV (not too bad) and a 27% drop rate for HO - the real bottleneck is the 3 BV needed for one click on the Enemy General job. By my numbers (obviously, not a cross section of the game population), completion of the Enemy General job - 30 BVs for Gold Mastery - should require completion of ~440 prior "clicks", so a total of ~8500 fate expended (assuming an average job cost of ~18 fate per click), so probably about 6-9 days of playtime, depending on how much attention is paid to the game. (This assumes higher level characters with sufficient reserves, of course - players who need to use the Rally job or other recruiting methods may see considerably longer times to completion) Emerald Mastery of the Enemy General job is probably not even feasible, since that should require a in the neighborhood of 8 weeks to complete *at minimum*, and it's unlikely the Battle will persist that long. Besides, there are likely more battles to come, so careful with those reserves!
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Kakita Shinji
Crane Clan
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone
Posts: 485
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Post by Kakita Shinji on Apr 8, 2011 18:04:40 GMT -5
By my numbers (obviously, not a cross section of the game population), completion of the Enemy General job - 30 BVs for Gold Mastery - should require completion of ~440 prior "clicks", so a total of ~8500 fate expended (assuming an average job cost of ~18 fate per click), so probably about 6-9 days of playtime, depending on how much attention is paid to the game. 440 * 18 = 7920 = 60 * 132 = 60 * 16 * 8,25 dunno about that 8500, but you pretty much nailed it with days (assuming 16 hr day cycle ). I've done that in 4,5 day but i used 10fate duel to squeeze them BV. Anyway it was lot of fun actually, but I'm kinda disappointed with final drop :/ Especially when you compare it to easier to get stuff like Enlightened or Tensai.
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Post by Jay Luo on Apr 8, 2011 18:17:56 GMT -5
I'm kinda disappointed with final drop :/ Especially when you compare it to easier to get stuff like Enlightened or Tensai. Hmmm, this is true, for the amount of effort it arguably should be comparable to Enlightened. Will look into that.
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Takezo
Dragon Clan
Shugyosha, Loyal retainer of Toturi, Dragon Champion-in-exile
Posts: 415
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Post by Takezo on Apr 8, 2011 18:24:28 GMT -5
It was a bit of an on-the-fly calculation, but don't forget to add in the cost of the Enemy General job itself (another 200 fate), so I guess it should actually be ~8100 or 8200 fate total.
Still a considerable effort!
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Post by Agasha Miga on Apr 8, 2011 20:24:05 GMT -5
Great work, Shinji-san! I am almost done with the general (90% up to now). I depleted my heavy infantries and went around to get more. I expect it should be completed this evening.
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Kakita Shinji
Crane Clan
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone
Posts: 485
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Post by Kakita Shinji on Apr 9, 2011 0:57:33 GMT -5
Don't give up EDIT: Hmmm, this is true, for the amount of effort it arguably should be comparable to Enlightened. Will look into that. Wow I see you already did Now... what are the chances for Taisa position? Any plans?
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