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Post by Shoju on Jun 22, 2011 11:25:55 GMT -5
I don't think that killing me this time will involve three cuts as much as it will involve destruction of an iron box and its contents.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Jun 22, 2011 11:29:51 GMT -5
I will tell you one thing. I do NOT like it when someone is forcing me to pick one - and this is what I get on Unicorn's land. I can join Kaneka... or join Kaneka (with infamy stuff and so on). Heck no! I went to support Hantei. I have a plan. Even if it means I will lose some nice stuff... So what. This is my path. Besides - I do not like Kaneka. And I see no reason to be on his side. So I don't like it when I am forced to change my character because game is forcing me to. I'd rather leave Unicorn's jobs undone than do something that is against my will. *noms on pickles*
IF Kaneka has something against Hantei - bring it on. I want proofs. Otherwise... I will be loyal to the one my mother and her mother were loyal to. Period.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jun 22, 2011 11:40:28 GMT -5
Alone, one Samurai cannot stop a war. But perhaps it will take fewer Samurai than many suspect. True that. We just need a nice little group of expendable samurai willing to infiltrate the capital and... Ahahaha. Nothing. Noooothing~ Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Post by Shoju on Jun 22, 2011 11:45:50 GMT -5
infiltrate toshi ranbo and die to the spider?
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jun 22, 2011 11:47:04 GMT -5
Arrogant son of a... Edit: Wait, that means you admit you are already in the capital and have thus infiltrated it yourself! I KNEW IT!
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Post by Shoju on Jun 22, 2011 11:50:09 GMT -5
In Toshi Ranbo now? No
By the time your guys get here? Surely.
My legion is camped southwest of Toshi Ranbo, and final preparations are being made for an entrance into the city to deliver news of our support.
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Post by bodhibloodwave on Jun 22, 2011 11:50:48 GMT -5
I am still trying to find out exactly when Kaneka got the authority to found/start a new family/dynasty since the Toturi line was extinguished upon Hantei Naseru ascending the throne
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Post by Shoju on Jun 22, 2011 11:56:34 GMT -5
Too many bumps to the head by the other Lion who picked on him after he was brought back by the water dragon.
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Bayushi Senshi
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Post by Bayushi Senshi on Jun 22, 2011 12:14:01 GMT -5
Aren't the four winds children of Toturi?
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Post by Shoju on Jun 22, 2011 12:27:41 GMT -5
They are. When Kaneka was returned to teh mortal world by the water dragon, he was a member of the Akodo family, as his father was at his time of birth.
Kaneka is the love child of Toturi and Hatsuko the Geisha, born during the time of the Scorpion Clan Coup. To save the child from the crimes that would be committed against him, the Water Dragon took him to a spirit realm until such time that he was needed in the world again.
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Post by bodhibloodwave on Jun 22, 2011 12:33:39 GMT -5
They were yes, but When Toturi Naseru ascended to the throne he changed his name to Hantei Naseru, Kaneka it seems didn't join a different family and is just Kaneka while Sezaru joined the Isawa(to nobodies surprise), that defacto extinguishes the family line since there is no Toturi family any longer.
And I don't think Kaneka has the authority to start his own family out of the blue even if he used to be of the family in the past.
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Jun 22, 2011 12:50:53 GMT -5
...Most people don't really understand the rules of Rokugani society, they're used to a freer system where they can speak what they want and do what they want. Most of the people supporting Kaneka have boiled all their arguments down to, "Kaneka's a hero and we want a hero as emperor." Nobody has put forth that they are willingly breaking the code of bushido or the will of the heavens, they just say the will of the heavens has already spoken or will decide. It is up to the Samurai to live by the laws already laid down by the heavens, not to force the heavens to show their will or change the laws to suit their desires.
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jun 22, 2011 14:13:02 GMT -5
We're not changing. We're interpreting. Especially based on past precedents. So there
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Jun 22, 2011 14:14:36 GMT -5
@aroru, But by the same token, those that support Hantei are saying the same.
@everyone, The time for words is at it's end. Further discourse continues in circles, stalling you from the actions you must take if Rokugan is to move past this time.
I will see you all on the battlefield, whether it be across from me, or by my side.
(and I have a hit list, don't worry Shoju, just like everyone elses hit list, you made the cut, but I'm not sure if your above or below a certain low ranking Kakita atm.)
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Post by Shoju on Jun 22, 2011 14:24:27 GMT -5
Soshi Kiso's @aroru; The difference is, we are supporting the guy who is already emperor. Soshi Kiso. It's cool. I'm on everyones hit list. It should be a good time.
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