Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan 
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
Posts: 793
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Sept 2, 2011 23:11:23 GMT -5
You go away for a few days, and they blow up everything. The move goes well. Few more days.
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Akodo Keisuke
Lion Clan Mod
Lion Clan Regent ?Samurai ?Daimyo ?First Among Generals ?Tactician ?Commander ?Loyal
Posts: 704
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Post by Akodo Keisuke on Sept 2, 2011 23:42:46 GMT -5
A use for siege engines, but ouch a 22 Fate cost, that is steep.
I wonder if I can drag my fancy new Kaiu Siege Engine up there to Toshi Ranbo.
Still on pins and needles waiting for the actions that will require the Heroic Opportunities, and Counter Attacks.
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Enishi
Dragon Clan
Ninja * shadow * tattooed * Mad prophet of Nothing
Posts: 254
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Post by Enishi on Sept 3, 2011 3:06:12 GMT -5
Well, I'll be laughing at the next Lion that complains their superior army isn't represented correctly in the game. Seems like Lion lands are quite more defendable when you're away from home than those of other clans...
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
This person sometimes posts things that are tl;dr
Courtier Magistrate Ambassador Daimyo
Posts: 1,140 
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Sept 3, 2011 4:09:42 GMT -5
Erm Enishi, they aren't really away from home. Permission City and the Capital are quite close. The capital and Lonely Shore City? Not so close
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Shagi the Mad
Crane Clan
Fallen Crane * Scout * Mad * Shadowlands * Experienced 4 Hiruma Shagi
Posts: 180
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Post by Shagi the Mad on Sept 3, 2011 4:39:55 GMT -5
Have you never read about the Daidoji harriers? They use black pepper to blow stuff up. Not only is this very in keeping with the setting, it is also in keeping with the reality of the main Crab army kicking a small Crane force in the teeth with insane ease... I accept that it makes sense from the story point of view. But my complaints are from a game point of view. It's a job which is so convoluted to complete to gold (let alone Jade or Emerald) that it might as well not exist. |
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
Dragon Clan
This person sometimes posts things that are tl;dr
Courtier Magistrate Ambassador Daimyo
Posts: 1,140
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Sept 3, 2011 4:59:29 GMT -5
Really? If I were a Hantei supporter I could have double mastered it today. It doesn't seem that bad. Also the harriers were very dishonourable...
Some things in the game are hard. Not everything can be a 5 fate action requiring only 10 skill and no items. What item would you suggest instead of gaijin goods then?
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Post by Shokuma on Sept 3, 2011 5:17:06 GMT -5
It's a high cost, but not without reason. If I were to be concerned about how the actions balance off, I'd be far more likely to be pointing at the Flanking Maneuver (Light Cavalry + Battle Plans) vs. Iaijutsu Duel (Focus + Heroic Opportunity) pair in Toshi Ranbo, but really until the bulk of the armies get into the fray and all clans are represented in the actions, it's a bit premature to be claiming advantage to any one side.
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Sept 3, 2011 5:17:48 GMT -5
I suggest medicine. "Let them taste their own medicine!"
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Post by Hida Setsuro on Sept 3, 2011 5:55:51 GMT -5
I know all about Harriers. I've played one before. He was a badass, but you have to accept one thing: If you're ever found out, you are dead, even by your own clan. The fact of the matter is that the Daidoji Harriers, even ALL of them, could not stand against a full Crab frontal assault. Combine that with the fact that you are literally like, 15+ days by horseback from Lonely Shore City to Toshi Ranbo and it makes sense that you are going to lose Lonely Shore City.
The Crane can win their battles in the court or in a duel. Let the masters of siege warfare show you a thing or two.
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Shagi the Mad
Crane Clan
Fallen Crane * Scout * Mad * Shadowlands * Experienced 4 Hiruma Shagi
Posts: 180
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Post by Shagi the Mad on Sept 3, 2011 5:55:57 GMT -5
Really? If I were a Hantei supporter I could have double mastered it today. It doesn't seem that bad. I suspect you are in the minority... Those 10 Koku actions are so tiresome to do when your max Koku is 50, and there are an awful lot of players who dream of having a max Koku of 50. What item would you suggest instead of gaijin goods then? Much as I might like to suggest Peasant Hostages or Artists, ;D I'd be more likely to have made Gaijin Goods slightly more available. Maybe as a rare drop from some of those Pirate activities on the Trade Route. |
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Post by Hida Setsuro on Sept 3, 2011 5:57:36 GMT -5
Really? If I were a Hantei supporter I could have double mastered it today. It doesn't seem that bad. I suspect you are in the minority... Those 10 Koku actions are so tiresome to do when your max Koku is 50, and there are an awful lot of players who dream of having a max Koku of 50. What item would you suggest instead of gaijin goods then? Much as I might like to suggest Peasant Hostages or Artists, ;D I'd be more likely to have made Gaijin Goods slightly more available. Maybe as a rare drop from some of those Pirate activities on the Trade Route. Didn't your Emperor outlaw Gaijin Powders? Also, didn't your Champion disband the Harriers? Are you SURE you really support the Emperor so much that you should defy him? That goes to all of you would be harriers.  |
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 3, 2011 6:14:14 GMT -5
Setsuro-san, if you employ that logic, the Scorpion wouldn't even have been created. Ever.  As much as it pains me to say, Lonely Shore City is as good as lost. Which is why some of our members were sent there to support the Crab assault. Someone needs to responsibly take care of all that loot. Arrrr! |
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Post by Hida Setsuro on Sept 3, 2011 6:36:40 GMT -5
Setsuro-san, if you employ that logic, the Scorpion wouldn't even have been created. Ever. As much as it pains me to say, Lonely Shore City is as good as lost. Which is why some of our members were sent there to support the Crab assault. Someone needs to responsibly take care of all that loot. Arrrr! All I have to say is.. I'm on to you. Bwahahaha. |
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Tamori Manji
Dragon Clan Mod
Demon Fox (妖狐)
?Dragon Clan ?Hatamoto ?Fire ?Void ?Yamabushi ?Tattoed ?Nonhuman
Posts: 922
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Post by Tamori Manji on Sept 3, 2011 7:43:16 GMT -5
Setsuro-san, what kind of fox would I be if I already didn't know that? It's hard to trick a trickster, I'll have y'all truly working for it. |
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Daidoji Fitsu
Crane Clan
A prepared Daidoji is an implacable foe on the field of battle. Fitsu is always prepared.
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Post by Daidoji Fitsu on Sept 3, 2011 7:49:55 GMT -5
In this timeline the Harriers are alive and well since we don't have Domatai speaking out of both sides of her face. I don't see a problem with the goods, it seems a fair balance to how rare gaijin pepper should be. 40k stealth on the other hand seems high, when you consider it isn't a class skill given to the Daidoji and these traps should have been set up before the siege engines rolled in.
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