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Post by Shoju on Oct 25, 2011 12:42:25 GMT -5
Yeah... I had over 100 curses.
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Post by sprinkles on Oct 25, 2011 12:44:23 GMT -5
I stand corrected on that. You'll know where to find me everyone. Later!
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Kakita Mitsouko
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Post by Kakita Mitsouko on Oct 25, 2011 13:18:52 GMT -5
Mitsouko-sama, As you know, the Scorpion clan has firmly joined the true Emperor, and our armies are well positioned to help our Crab brethren, should the opportunity arise and context be favourable. Moreover, the Taint is a danger to Rokugan as a whole, not only to Crab territory, and Shiro Hiruma would undoubtedly be only the first step in an invasion that could potentially be a disasteer for the whole Empire. Why, then, would you not make arrangements to transfer part of your considerable jade holdings to our clan, which is nearer the action? I can ensure you that such reserves would be well guarded and well used by our ever so vigilant clan, and we could help you acquire items that would better fuel your war and rebuilding efforts in return. Yours faithfully, Bayushi Hiryu, Taisa of the First Legion of the Scorpion HIRYU: Yeah right please send me Scorpion wagons so I can give it to you, Hiryu-san. It's a pleasure to work with you! Can I get a pen as freebie? MANJI: My first idea was to build a huge Iron tower with a jade statue of Myself on top at Shiro Sano Kakita. But some players think I can use this jade to defend the Empire... Technically only the Crane that are already there (some of them are, like Ren-san) would fight. IC we would send jade to the defenders of the wall. But it only would have a reason to be with a negotiation... I am not sure if it is possible. Edited: Well, I called Hiryu Hisa. I am sorry.
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Oct 25, 2011 13:27:09 GMT -5
Mitsouko, why don't you send a huge jade statue of yourself to the Wall? LOL ;D That way you can both fulfill your wishes AND protect the Empire
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Bayushi Hiryu
Scorpion Clan
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Post by Bayushi Hiryu on Oct 25, 2011 13:33:35 GMT -5
Mitsouko-sama, As you know, the Scorpion clan has firmly joined the true Emperor, and our armies are well positioned to help our Crab brethren, should the opportunity arise and context be favourable. Moreover, the Taint is a danger to Rokugan as a whole, not only to Crab territory, and Shiro Hiruma would undoubtedly be only the first step in an invasion that could potentially be a disasteer for the whole Empire. Why, then, would you not make arrangements to transfer part of your considerable jade holdings to our clan, which is nearer the action? I can ensure you that such reserves would be well guarded and well used by our ever so vigilant clan, and we could help you acquire items that would better fuel your war and rebuilding efforts in return. Yours faithfully, Bayushi Hiryu, Taisa of the First Legion of the Scorpion HISA: Yeah right please send me Scorpion wagons so I can give it to you, Hisa-san. It's a pleasure to work with you! Can I get a pen as freebie? It is Hiryu, not Hisa. But the pleasure remains working with someone so agreeable. I don't understand what you mean by "pen", and thought that your most honorable person wouldn't do any commerce with gaijin. Please correct me if I was mistaken. Hiryu, Scorpion able to read a name and remain civil
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Oct 25, 2011 13:38:24 GMT -5
Hiryu, don't begrudge Hisa for being your Kagemusha ;D
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Kakita Mitsouko
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Post by Kakita Mitsouko on Oct 25, 2011 13:56:36 GMT -5
Shame on me, I would seppuku for my mistake.. but Hiryu-san forgave me.
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Bayushi Hiryu
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Post by Bayushi Hiryu on Oct 25, 2011 14:43:32 GMT -5
Hiryu, don't begrudge Hisa for being your Kagemusha ;D Who tells you Hisa is my kagemusha, and not the other way around? ...
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Oct 25, 2011 14:50:19 GMT -5
Who tells you Hisa is my kagemusha, and not the other way around? ... Hahahaha, good one!
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Mirumoto Machu
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Post by Mirumoto Machu on Oct 25, 2011 17:25:03 GMT -5
Manji you had a big post about people at Toshi Ranbo suddenly being at The Wall. I will not bother quoteing but I agree, that was one of the reasons for me not fighting the war so I could defend the empire from banits and maho-tsuki.
What about a Heavilly Engaged (location) item? People fighting at one major location could choose to get a Heavilly Engeged for that location unlocking good actions there but locking out all but the most basic actions at every other major location. Obviously common troop movments and scouting could be proformed by troops under your command in you absense but heroic oppritunities or brilliant victories could only be done where you are
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Kakita Mitsouko
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Post by Kakita Mitsouko on Oct 25, 2011 17:39:54 GMT -5
Really brilliant Machu-san!
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Oct 25, 2011 17:44:49 GMT -5
Machu, personally, I think that's a brilliant idea and agree 101% with it. Kudos to you for expressing it ;D
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Post by Hida Joji on Oct 25, 2011 19:15:10 GMT -5
The concept is good but battles tend to run for a long time. Take me, for example, I don't usually do all 3 masteries as farming endlessly bothers the hell out of me, I do 10, perhaps 20 more and then it's back to getting tokens from actions I haven't done before. It's a casual semi-random farming, I leave the power to influence results to players who don't mind clicking on the same actions for weeks on end.
So, IMO, good concept but execution needs to allow a player to be a part of the battle but still go on with his own EE game while participating on the shared EE.
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Asahina Yukihime
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Post by Asahina Yukihime on Oct 25, 2011 19:52:19 GMT -5
That sounds harder to code than making the battles clan only vs clan only in certain locations. But I'm not sure.
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Oct 25, 2011 19:53:10 GMT -5
Joji, I can't see how Machu's idea conflicts with what you've just said (EDIT: ok, this would mess with the "free ring hunting" but I do think it's well worth the sacrifice). As I've understood, what he meant was: 1) Before any of the big war defining battles (.e.g. Toshi Ranbo, Permission City, Lonely Shore City) an item would be made available through a simple mission (maybe the mastery for a ten step mission like "gathering the troops" or a one step mission "joining the fray" or something similar); 2) This item (let's say "War Token [Toshi Ranbo]) would make other missions at the location available (e.g. coordinating troops, flanking the enemy, commanding the archers or anything that required direct engagement). Without this item, one would be able only to do simple missions, like those related to scouting and reconnaissance; 3) Anyone with the "war token" of one battlefield (e.g. Toshi Ranbo), wouldn't be able to get "tokens" for other battlefields (e.g. the Wall, Castle of the Swift Sword); 4) After a battle was done, each side would get a simple, probably single step, mission that would require that "war token", in order to be able to move on to another battlefields. These "war tokens" wouldn't influence any missions not directly related to the war and the major battlefields in any way whatsoever. Meaning that everything else would stay as it is. I think it's an awesome idea, but, there may be some implementation problems. The major one I can think of being that, in order for it to work, all the missions across all the battlefields would have to be coded in order to "answer" specifically to these "tokens", since they would have to be necessarily among the prerequisites for the more complex missions. I don't think it's hard to do, but it is a lot of work. Mainly because missions to obtain and get rid off the "tokens" would have to be added. It may sound like a needless complication, but it would be very cool if it was possible to be implemented because this would actually require strategy from the players. The Clans would have to choose, at least to some degree, where to deploy their resources and that would reflect the movement of their armies. That said, I understand the difficulties related to creating this much content, so, I'll just be happy that someone mentioned the idea. Jay is already doing a great job with the war, it would be unfair of me to just keep asking for more and criticizing without recognizing his dedicated efforts. EDIT: (...) making the battles clan only vs clan only in certain locations... Less detailed but certainly a more simple and viable solution
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