Kakita Shinji
Crane Clan
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone
Posts: 485
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Post by Kakita Shinji on May 31, 2011 12:05:54 GMT -5
I'm aware of that but other old actions were modified when new items were introduced.
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Agasha Shodai
Phoenix Clan Mod
Phoenix Clan * The Void Master * Tensai * Taisa * Enlightened * Paragon of Compassion * Unique
Posts: 783
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Post by Agasha Shodai on May 31, 2011 12:29:44 GMT -5
Ah; guess he didn't get around to that one or the random drop generator just doesn't like you at the moment. ;D
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Post by Asahina Timaru on Jun 1, 2011 6:49:26 GMT -5
It would be nice to see other resources being needed for quests than the usual. Or the droprate for things like prayers, rumors, scouts etc. to be increased.
Quests costing scouting reports or blessings for a change would be nice or some quests that have requirements but no costs...
Plus a quest to remove the second Sworn Enemy: Kaneka
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan
Dragon Clan * Shugenja * Earth * Void * Yamabushi * Duelist
Posts: 228
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Jun 2, 2011 0:52:56 GMT -5
I would like to see a continuation and progression of the Anti-Kaneka plot. The pro-Kaneka side has a boost influence at court job, a counter job would be nice.
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Bayushi Hisa
Scorpion Clan
Samurai * Courtier * Dark Paragon of Will * Loyal
Posts: 479
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Post by Bayushi Hisa on Jun 8, 2011 2:54:04 GMT -5
Epic quests for Ancestral and/or Celestial clan swords. Prerequisite is level 3 mastery in all quests in your clan's provinces. Quest starts at your home location and gives a sword that grants a +20 bonus to all 4 of your school skills, +100 Glory, +100 Honor, +10 Koku.
Also, with how important gifting is in Rokugan, this is probably the only game where gifting items (from your inventory only, thereby requiring the player to quest for the items to make it more personal) to individuals in your Dynasty wouldn't get on my nerves.
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Kakita Shinji
Crane Clan
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone
Posts: 485
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Post by Kakita Shinji on Jun 8, 2011 7:42:15 GMT -5
I'd preffer prerequisite to be more like high level of skill or doing jobs at specific location rather than emeradling actions that may have nothing to do with those special swords/items.
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Post by Shoju on Jun 8, 2011 8:57:49 GMT -5
I would love to see something like that. It wouldn't be hard to work out I don't think. I'm fairly certain that all families of a clan have at least 1 skill that they share.
I.E. I'm pretty sure the Goju and Daigotsu families share Shadowlands or Stealth with me. (probably shadowlands).
You could then make the ancestral weapon of the spider queue off of a rather high shadowlands number.
Considering in my best set o' shaddylands attire I can crank mine up to 121, you could probably set the requirement at 100, and assure that your positioning the job correctly.
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Jun 8, 2011 8:59:41 GMT -5
Great wish, Hisa-san. But have you looked at this from technical side? How complicated code it must be to check all the requirements! And forcing some characters to doing infamous acts or even exposing to taint wouldn't be a thing that whole Clan would approve - it would rather lead to many seppukus. Chose your wishes wisely next time - they may come true and you will be badly surprised by the outcomes.
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Bayushi Hisa
Scorpion Clan
Samurai * Courtier * Dark Paragon of Will * Loyal
Posts: 479
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Post by Bayushi Hisa on Jun 8, 2011 11:36:38 GMT -5
Shinji-san and Shigekazu-san, you both make excellent points. Emeralding was the first thing that came to mind as a prerequisite, but, Shinji-san, your suggestion makes more sense. It would be more appropriate to have a high base skill prerequisite and completing some of the clan only quests (I still think it should require Emeralding of these quests though), such as gaining your Ancestor as an example.
Shigekazu-san, I know absolutely nothing about web coding or javascript; so, no, I have not looked at it from a technical side. I know Scorpion has plenty of infamy and even a taint option in their lands, but do other clans? My character is only level 22 so isn't as traveled as others, but I know some clans wouldn't mind a little taint or infamy. Spider for one. Crab strike me as not minding as long as the taint isn't too high, they seem to be expected to have a little taint from their constant forays to fight in the Shadowlands. Scorpion being another since they're expected to do whatever they see as necessary for the empire. Though, in all honesty, I've only been a CCG player before this, never delving into the RPG because there was no interest in it in my area, so my understanding of the clans comes from the pre-Lotus era cards (which was the last time I played).
EDIT TO ADD: Phoenix and Dragon as well could be expected to have a maximum of 1 Taint to get their sword, since doesn't Enlightenment require 1 taint to obtain in this game? Those two clans always seem to be seeking Enlightenment.
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Jun 8, 2011 13:03:26 GMT -5
Seeking enlightement never was depentent on having Taint. Never! Moreover, having Taint and not fighting with it, thus allowing it to grow stronger, is a serious obstacle in finding enlightement. [In mechanics you cannot get Enlightement if you have more than 1 point of Taint - minimum value if you have got any point of taint ever and you do not exploit a recent bug.]
Maybe that I'm from the Dragon Clan makes my vision of the Empire more idealistic but which Clan will allow their members to grow Taint? Crab? So why they have Kuni Witchhunters? Why they separate their tainted warriors from regular units and allow them to seek dead as berserkers? Scorpion? So why they have Kuroiban? Unicorns? Remember the Moto history and their devotion in getting rid of the Tainted. Phoenix and Dragon? They have Inquisitors and Kitsuki Magistrates. Only Mantis, Crane and Lion do not have own way to deal with Tainted (Lion deathseekers bear shame and getting taint is only one way to be ashamed so I don't count them). Nobody would like to give purest sword into the hands of the Tainted. It would be just a loss.
Infamy is a different thing. Some Clans can allow Infamous persons to get greatest awards. I guess it would be Scorpion - as they sometimes have to do what is necessary - and Crab, Mantis, Unicorn and Tortoise - they seem to not bother with some petty things like being infamous (I've heard that some Mantis and Tortoise are proud of it!). But infamy is not a good thing - especially for those who want to posses a nemuranai. I would not give an ancestral sword to somebody who can dishonor it.
To conclude, demanding performing missions that give Infamy or Taint should not be even considered.
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Post by Shoju on Jun 8, 2011 13:14:38 GMT -5
You do have a very dragonlike outlook on things Shigekazu. I dare say that IMO far too much of a hullaballoo is made about infamy.
We had an infamous Emperor - Toturi We have had infamous Champions - Hoturi (if you think he didn't have 'infamy' from his sordid affair with the mistress of secrets, you are deluding yourself. / Kisada / Kuon / Pretty much Every Khan / Shoju, Sunetra, Paneki / Yoritomo. We have had infamous supremely honorable men: Toshimoko could be said to have been infamous. Akodo Kage would have been Infamous, yet retained incredibly high honor. Etc...
Infamy is not a big deal. I understand that some people wish to make it a big deal, but really? Its not.
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Shosuro Aroru
Scorpion Clan
Scorpion Clan Ninja * Duelist
Posts: 625
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Post by Shosuro Aroru on Jun 9, 2011 12:48:40 GMT -5
...You're right Chuda, of course this was argued down in the last thread someone wanted to see penalties applied for being infamous. My request is for a change to the horseriding system. Some of the locations are too close together. I think Shiro Ide should be moved up to Shiro Moto and Kyuden Tonbo should be moved up to either Shiro Kitsuki or Shiro Mirumoto. They're both two clicks away from another horse-riding location making those places pointless to ride to from each other and not much difference to ride to either of them from somewhere else. I also wouldn't mind seeing Ryoko Owari Toshi changed to somewhere like the Temple of Osana-Wo. The Shiro Ide, Kyuden Miya, Ryoko Owari Toshi and Beiden chain are all too close together to really accomplish much as far as making moving around the empire easier.
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Bayushi Haruka
Scorpion Clan
OOC Cleanup Crew
Samurai? Battle Maiden? Cavalry? Paragon of Courage? Friend of the Lion
Posts: 1,054
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Post by Bayushi Haruka on Jun 15, 2011 18:39:35 GMT -5
This'll seem like an odd request but... We need more deaths.. >.> I'd like to see:
Perish with the damned - the requirement of one taint minimum death in the shadowlands. This being one of the 'right' deaths after acquiring taint. (Maybe a slight glory boost, probably not terribly honorable though but meh. Seppuku is kinda broad and I suspect people like to specify maybe why they deserved to end their character's more.. colorfully.)
Maybe some random encounters?
[Probably rarest of all] Duel to the death - Victory (Glory and Honor), Draw (Glory and Honor), Defeat (Glory, Honor, and Death >.>)
Bog Hag Attack - Shadowlands - (possible to get plague symptoms) Destroy with kenjutsu, Destroy with magic, Call on reinforcements (cost medium infantry), Strike a deal with the bog hag (infamy, taint?)
[Rare encounter] Oni Appearance - Shadowlands - Destroy via kenjutsu, destroy via spellcraft, Sneak attack (lol stealth), appease the oni (ally sacrifice), enslave the oni (zomg oni follower??)
I'm just rattling off thoughts. I could probably come up with more, but these are just some strange ideas coming to mind with the current mechanics in place. The shadowlands is more fun when it's.. crazy XD And I can hear Shoju just rattling in his robes at the thought of enslaving an oni for a follower..
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Post by Shoju on Jun 16, 2011 7:07:42 GMT -5
An Oni has crossed my mind a time or two.....
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Jun 16, 2011 13:58:49 GMT -5
Me too, that's why I have a dozen oni heads!
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