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Post by Shoju on Jun 18, 2011 18:23:47 GMT -5
If I wanted a Civil War Kitsuki-san, Civil war would be had. Instead, at every single opportunity I have done what is right for the Empire.
You forget Kitsuke-san, I sent a courtier to the capital in search of peace. I sent a personal friend on a mission that I knew would likely end up with his death or capture to deliver an armistice to the Empire.
Look around you now. There are no sanctioned spider actions against the Empire. The Spider don't storm the wall. I have even aided the cause of destroying bloodspeaker cells throughout the empire. No Tsukai loyal to the spider would dare be so crass in the empire.
We have held our end of the Armistice even without it being signed, even after the end of the Yobanjin incursion.
Now, when faced with the possibility of creating strife in the Empire, we in turn stand with the true Son of Heaven, and you question my motives. You accuse me of wanting Civil War, when you stand with the Usurper. You stand with the traitor. You stand with war.
We will never see eye to eye on philosophy, honor, or bushido. But this, I thought at least in this, we would see eye to eye.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jun 18, 2011 18:29:41 GMT -5
@ Bodhi. Ah but I cannot tell how tainted you are. If you are truly lost then your words are the words of a dark kami and those are words I cannot detect are sincere or not. Also, in regards to matters such as this, we have our evidence and facts. At the end of the day though, it is always how you interpret them and what you think about them that matters. There is no such thing as absolute evidence that can only be judged one way - except taint of course!
@ Shoju - I don't care what you've sent others to do. I'll see you all executed as the law dictates for those who are so tainted and far gone. You would corrupt the Empire and spread treachery and violence as your dark lord wishes. Are you even in control of your own will?
We won't see eye to eye, no. If we ever got that close I would risk being tainted. And all of your actions are likely to lull us into a false sense of security - so that we show you our backs, ripe to be stabbed, rather than our armoured fronts. No, you are all traitors and stand with each other. Your master is also the truest attempted usurper of all. Do not think to lecture me on matters that you are too corrupt to appreciate
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Post by Shoju on Jun 18, 2011 18:37:21 GMT -5
Sometimes people just can't see the way things are. Under the direction of my "dark lord" the Spider have become more focused, more 'human' more honorable than any formation of 'lost' or 'tainted' ever before.
We keep no company with Oni, and treat all who enter our city with respect until proven they need to be treated otherwise. Some of the greatest men in the empire have been welcome within our city's walls, and left.
I would never corrupt the empire. Corruption leads to destruction.
If you speak of the Mark of Fu Leng, Not everyone in the Empire is strong enough in mind to bear the weight of the Mark of Fu Leng. It is something we have learned over time, and work to give those who are truly worthy.
My will is more my own than yours Kitsuke-san.
Your personal jabs are the same as always. too corrupted, too tainted, too gone, evil, blah blah blah. I have given you no reason to mistrust me, yet you continue to treat me as if I'm holding a dagger behind my back waiting to plant it in the socket of your eye.
My lord has never attempted to Usurp that which he does not have a rightful claim to. A claim that was never renounced. A claim that was taken from him.
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Kitsuki Yuushahime
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jun 18, 2011 18:53:13 GMT -5
Believe what you like. I will always believe you hold that dagger Shoju. Make sure you always believe that I will plant my own dagger into you if we ever cross paths. Sorry for all the personal jabs. Really it isn't personal. Honest. I loathe and mistrust all lost equally.
*happy smiles*
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Tamori Koichi
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Jun 18, 2011 19:51:40 GMT -5
And to see the Dragon, who always have been loyal to the Empire, turn against he who sits on the throne? Not all of us have done so, some of us still remain loyal to the Righteous Emperor. The Dragon are split on the issue. In our decision-makings, the Dragon have always voiced out our own opinions to our Champion (which he has most graciously all heard and taken to consideration), so that he could make a choice for the clan that we would support. But this time, Takezo has made it clear that his choice to support Kaneka is a personal one. Where he walks, some of us cannot follow. If ever there was a clan to look to now, it would be the Lion Clan. How odd that the Right Hand of the Emperor choose to side with a traitor.
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Post by Shoju on Jun 18, 2011 20:09:33 GMT -5
They will soon be replaced as a hand of the Emperor. Of this, I Promise.
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Post by Kitsuki Yuushahime on Jun 18, 2011 20:27:26 GMT -5
Tainted warped evil smelly corrupted hand of mutated and grotesque proportions. Perhaps it'll get lost? Wheee~
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Bayushi Hisa
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Post by Bayushi Hisa on Jun 18, 2011 21:04:30 GMT -5
I must stand with Tadaka-san on this issue, and defy my Champion. I will support my Emperor. Hantei charged Bayushi with protecting the Empire against threats from the clans, and to prevent them from rising against the Son of Heaven. I will fulfill the duty commanded to my clan by Hantei. Senshi-sama, you have your loyalties to oaths you made, I must weigh my loyalty to you against my loyalty to the Empire. Please, Senshi-sama, release me from my loyalty to you in this matter.
Yuushahime-san, you claim to advocate that Hantei step down and allow Kaneka to take his place, but if you side with the Bastard you advocate war, since that is all he knows. He sees threats in every shadow, he lusts for bloodshed, and you wish to put this madman on the throne? You talk of removing insane Emperors, yet advocate that his insanity makes him worthy? And you dare suggest that the Emperor may be tainted without evidence?
The Spider may be evil and tainted, but they at least bear the mark of a kami. When the usurpers claiming to be sons and daughters of Ki-Rin marched into Rokugan after 800 years, they were welcomed with open arms, despite no evidence of being the true Ki-Rin clan and bringing blasphemous beliefs to our land. Now you ride with these Usurpers on Toshi Ranbo?
Toichi-san, it isn't that odd that the Lion would side with Kaneka. He is an Akodo afterall. (At least canonicly, not sure if he is in this game...)
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Jun 18, 2011 21:29:07 GMT -5
We shall all see reasons the other side is incorrect in one facade or another. While some Scorpion speak out against the Master of Secrets, I will remain loyal to my Champion.
It is every samurai's duty to protect the empire, whether that protection be from outside, or from the emperor himself. I can not say Kaneka-sama has the best timing in my eyes, but I understand. With all the threats facing the empire, a silent Emperor is ill fortune and must be dealt with.
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Agasha Shodai
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Post by Agasha Shodai on Jun 18, 2011 22:44:48 GMT -5
OOC: Actually, cannonically speaking, Kaneka and his half brother, Sezaru, joined the Phoenix Clan when Toturi III (here Hantei XL) was named Emperor, but chose not to join any of our families.
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Post by Bayushi Haruka on Jun 18, 2011 22:58:53 GMT -5
OOC: Actually, cannonically speaking, Kaneka and his half brother, Sezaru, joined the Phoenix Clan when Toturi III (here Hantei XL) was named Emperor, but chose not to join any of our families. Kaneka was not allowed to take up a name, there is a difference. Hantei forbid it.
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Bayushi Hisa
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Post by Bayushi Hisa on Jun 18, 2011 23:08:48 GMT -5
OOC: Yes he did join Phoenix, but his blood and his ancestry are still Akodo, even if he did eventually drop the Akodo name. I just can't stand Kaneka. He may be a brilliant tactician and the best duelist in the land, but the guy joined with the Gozoku for a time. I'm assuming that he's going to march on TR soon so I'm curious if Jay's going to follow the cannon and have him killed by a Unicorn later on.
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Toku Hirotomo
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Jun 19, 2011 0:56:39 GMT -5
The Monkey has said it's piece. The new (or newest rather) champion stands with the Dragon Champion, the Kitsuki, The Scorpion, The Crab, The Lion, and The Unicorn. Toturi, not Hantei shall sit on the throne before long.
I do find it odd that the Crane have been uncharacteristically silent. Aside from two members, the clan as a whole remain silent. Nothing from the Mantis as well. As expected, the Phoenix are likely to sue for peace. Three wild cards. With the largest army in the world on our side, as well as the might of 5 of the 8 Great clans, aside from a handful of the Crab, (I imagine most of the Yatsuki will side with their champion rather than their Daimyo) and the Dragon. I don't know what to say for the other Minor clans, aside from the Ox.
OOC: If we're tossing around names, how about Iweko I? That would be amusing.
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Yasuki Chad
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Post by Yasuki Chad on Jun 19, 2011 1:11:24 GMT -5
I speak for myself. All I will command my men to do is look to their duty. The Crab have enough real threats to combat without magnifacturing new ones within the empire. Or have you forgotten the Yobanjin and the spider? My support for the true emperor aside, my duty is to supply to the Hida the means to protect Rokugan. It is my Champions unenviable duty to choose how best that is done. I have given council on the matter, and I trust my Lord to make the right decision.
Congradulations on your appointment, Toku-san. It is a shame your father was forced into an impossible position.
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Post by Kakita Shinji on Jun 19, 2011 2:56:22 GMT -5
OOC: I really need some kind of sumup. Is there any Hantei blood in Kaneka? Was Hantei XXXIX vessel of Fu Leng? Did Second Day Of Thunder occur in this storyline? Is Hantei XXXX son of Hantei XXXIX?
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