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Post by Shoju on Aug 9, 2011 15:20:06 GMT -5
Yeah, My goal right now:
1.) finish this job series that gives me 259 fate. (50 more fate)
2.) round up more slander for my position on spider issues.
3.) make sure I'm happy with my vote tally on the spider issue of my choice.
4.) Then, and only then will i even entertain the idea of farming riddles to bother with the Hantei camp that voted for execution of my brother.
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Post by Mirumoto Shigekazu on Aug 9, 2011 15:29:50 GMT -5
Huge hug for Kasumi! Please, do not cry because something grows inside of you, feeds on you and someday will painfully blow out from you (and until this day disallows you to drink beer).
As for riddles - it's very dragonlike to speak in riddles but very hard for those, who want to ascend to our mountains and mess with our politics. Sho, sho, go away. Find something else to do. For example, Daigotsu court will always welcome you and give you opportunity to spend slanders.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Aug 9, 2011 17:39:09 GMT -5
Shigekazu yeah... but they are mad at me when I call it "Alien"... *sighs* And sho sho yourself! I can always go to Toturi's camp you know...  Shoju: Want me to give you some new brothers then? Just ask  |
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Tamori Koichi
Dragon Clan 
Dragon Clan * Shugenja * Earth * Void * Yamabushi * Duelist
Posts: 228
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Post by Tamori Koichi on Aug 9, 2011 20:49:50 GMT -5
I was surprised that there was a "Move against the Scorpion" job in the Toturi camp. If that doesn't tell the Scorpion who they should side with then I don't know what will. Kaneka (or at least those suggesting that to him) is crazy sensitive. |
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Post by Soshi Kiso on Aug 9, 2011 21:18:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I gotta tell you I for one would be very upset to being strong-armed by Toturi's Army.
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Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
Lion Clan * Bushi * Tactician * Shireikan of the Akodo Army * Ambassador to the Scorpion Clan
Posts: 371
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on Aug 9, 2011 21:26:46 GMT -5
Oh, please. There are only two non-declared forces adjacent to his position and there needed to be a third choice. The only reason the Dragon don't have that option too is because the Lion are in the way. Simply having the option on the table means nothing, particularly when it's a dumb option. If we actually moved against the Scorpion then it would be another story, but it won't happen.
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
Posts: 793
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Aug 9, 2011 22:17:09 GMT -5
Exactly. Why attack people we don't want to fight with, when we can stomp another perfectly good mud hole in people we do want to fight with? I'm sure the Scorpion will side with us, then we can all have fun.
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Daigotsu Daisuke
Spider Clan
Former Lion Bushi - Newly Initiated Maho Tsukai
Posts: 330
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Post by Daigotsu Daisuke on Aug 9, 2011 22:44:55 GMT -5
as kenzo said, Why waste time attacking the scorpion, a perfectly neutral/toturi leaning faction when we could go squish toshi ranbo and end this as quickly as possible? Any attempts to subdue the dragon or the scorpion is an absurd choice. The dragon are strongest in their mountain strong holds. Leave an army for when they come down the mountain but if they dont then hey even better. The phoenix may provide an annoyance but the true concern is the crane and toshi ranbo. My vote is going to the place that matters most, the seat of wasteful Hantei, namesake of a corrupted dynasty.
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Toku Hirotomo
Monkey Clan
Bushi Paragon of Compassion Clan Champion Toturi's Army
Posts: 793
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Post by Toku Hirotomo on Aug 9, 2011 23:37:01 GMT -5
I would not go so far as to call the Hantei a corrupt dynasty. He made have taken the name as part of the War of the Spirits truce, but he's no more a Hantei than any of us. The real Hantei are our Divine leaders, destined to lead us through the Divine Kami themselves. We are poorer for having lost them, but they are lost. We are led by men now, not by Divine Will.
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Aug 10, 2011 1:08:07 GMT -5
Oh, please. There are only two non-declared forces adjacent to his position and there needed to be a third choice. The only reason the Dragon don't have that option too is because the Lion are in the way. Simply having the option on the table means nothing, particularly when it's a dumb option. If we actually moved against the Scorpion then it would be another story, but it won't happen. Oh really? I think you are wrong. With Toturi being so... "actionman", I can imagine him going against Scorpions for not being fast enough and not doing what he wants. We know Scorpion clan is powerful with all their sneaky things... they know a lot. So if they are late, they might think too much and side with Hantei - soooo, why give him someone to side with. Let's destroy them! YAY! This is what Toturi is in my eyes  |
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Akodo Kenzo
Lion Clan
Lion Clan * Bushi * Tactician * Shireikan of the Akodo Army * Ambassador to the Scorpion Clan
Posts: 371
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Post by Akodo Kenzo on Aug 10, 2011 1:49:04 GMT -5
Oh, please. There are only two non-declared forces adjacent to his position and there needed to be a third choice. The only reason the Dragon don't have that option too is because the Lion are in the way. Simply having the option on the table means nothing, particularly when it's a dumb option. If we actually moved against the Scorpion then it would be another story, but it won't happen. Oh really? I think you are wrong. With Toturi being so... "actionman", I can imagine him going against Scorpions for not being fast enough and not doing what he wants. We know Scorpion clan is powerful with all their sneaky things... they know a lot. So if they are late, they might think too much and side with Hantei - soooo, why give him someone to side with. Let's destroy them! YAY! This is what Toturi is in my eyes Wow... Does your mental caricature feature him foaming at the mouth, too? That would be about the same level of absurdity. Kaneka's not a fool. You don't send a diplomatic envoy to a faction that you hope to get to support you and then immediately back it up with an army on the doorstep. Not unless you're in a position of unquestionable, overwhelming military superiority, which he's not. Plus, this is the Scorpion we're talking about here. They don't tend to respond well to intimidation tactics. Marching on them now, while they're still on the fence, would do far more harm than good. It's counter-productive. |
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Kakita Ishida
Crane Clan
Duelist, Courtier, and Seeker of Enlightenment
Posts: 4
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Post by Kakita Ishida on Aug 10, 2011 3:09:22 GMT -5
Ah riddles, the item I seem to lack. Any tips on where I might be able to procure such a thing?
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Aug 10, 2011 6:42:12 GMT -5
Riddle: (Information) * Great Hall of Records - Research Historical Plagues (Req; Ikoma Lore, Lore 40. Cost; Lion Favor, Ancient Tome) [R] * Great Wall of the North Mountains - Explore Mountain Peaks (Req; Athletics 30. Cost; Rumor) [R] * Kyuden Isawa - Consult the Isawa About the Plague (Req; Isawa Shugenja Ally, Lore 40. Cost; Phoenix Favor, Librarian) [R] * Kyuden Isawa - Pay Respects to Isawa Sezaru (Req; Isawa Shugenja Ally or Enlightened, Lore 30. Cost; Phoenix Favor) [R] * Random Encounter (Castle) = Occult Murders - Cooperate with Authorities [-G] (Req; Etiquette 25, max infamy 50. Cost; n/a) [R] * Random Encounter (Court) = Occult Murders - Use the Kitsuki method (Req; Kitsuki technique, Investigation 40. Cost; Bloodspeaker's tools, Lost mempo) [R] * Shiro Kuni - Study Plague Victims (Req; Lore 30. Cost; Simple Scroll) [R] * Temple of Osano-Wo - Consult the Monks About the Plague (Req; Monk Advisors, Lore 40. Cost; Favor of the Brotherhood) [R] * Temple of Osano-Wo - Study Philosophy (Req; Ancient Tome, Lore 20. Cost; Riddle) [R] * Temple of Osano-Wo - Train in Martial Arts (Req; Athletics 20. Cost; n/a) [R] * Tetsu Kama Mura - Investigate Missing Persons (Req; Investigation 20. Cost; n/a) [R] Kenzo - but... are you 100% sure? |
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Agasha Shodai
Phoenix Clan Mod 
Phoenix Clan * The Void Master * Tensai * Taisa * Enlightened * Paragon of Compassion * Unique
Posts: 783
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Post by Agasha Shodai on Aug 10, 2011 7:26:01 GMT -5
Actually, Kenzo, there is a historical precident for sending an envoy to someone you intend to invade while the envoy is there. Its a tactic to put people at ease. I just can't remember who used it: Sun Tsu, Genghis Khan or Attila the Hun...
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Post by Shoju on Aug 10, 2011 8:00:18 GMT -5
The Khan did. Often.
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