Solution for Scorpion Side in War

[Tamori Manji]

How does one start a RP thread though? Just create it and hope other ppl come? Ever since I decided that Manji's father would be a Dragon I've been musing the idea of joining the Clan and officially finishing his alchemical training with the Tamori. I may do it after this war is finished. As the only way to join another Clan is to marry, I've been thinking about a Dragon bride for a while too, even did the first marriage quests.

If I do embrace the Dragon, it would be nice to be able to RP at least a bit of it. By then I should also have finished posting my whole story too, which would make things easier.

[Kitsuki Yuushahime]

Sounds fun Manji and yes, you're spot on about just making a rp and hoping people join. One tip - message people in advance who you'd like to rp with. Discuss plot ideas and scenarios and make sure people are on the same page. Just relying on them turning up and following what you want to happen is often a recipe for... well, not disaster, but at least unexpected situations.

I think Shoju could give you a good few tips about that so perhaps ask him. And you can always make a new character too but yes, marriage is usually better as you can keep your glory and items and so on!

[Tamori Manji]

Thanks for the tips Yuushahime-san. I guess I will let things develop naturally. I still don't know who are the persons who usually like to RP, so, I'll avoid sending messages until I have watched the forums a bit more.

I love being a Kitsune but the Mantis is not exactly my cup of tea, I kinda wish the Kitsune were still a minor Clan as their feel differs drastically from the other Mantis families. Well, I could always seppuku "Kitsune Manji" and create a "Tamori Manji" but it seems a bit of a waste, as nothing would really change. I think it's easier to either include a bride in my story or to marry mechanically but RP it as Manji adopting the family name of his father. I think that with a bit of politics it could be done, especially because Rokugan favors the male parent for naming and determining the heritage of children.

I'll send Shoju-san a pm, once I know which questions to ask.

[Isawa Goro]

I'll say this here and now, if the Hantei loses the throne, Goro would happily commit seppuku rather than serve a false Emperor.

Senshi can take the credit for my death if he wants.

[Tamori Koichi]

Manji-san, you're quite welcome to join the Tamori if you wish to. Just contact me if you want to RP it or for any info that you might need.

[Tamori Manji]

Thanks Koichi-san. Once I play my part in this conflict and can travel freely again I'll inform you. For now, I'll do my best to help Yoritomo Masamoto-san with his plans. Once the Dragon moves, I'll follow as soon as I'm able to.

[Bayushi Hisa]

Aug 20, 2011 10:54:28 GMT -5 Bayushi Senshi said:

And if you really want to talk about how loyal my clan is to me, I can ask for the seppuku of a handful of them right now just to prove a point and they would do it.

*Looks at his Dark Paragon status*

Well f*** me...

[Mirumoto Shigekazu]

Hisa-san, it is always an option.

[Tamori Manji]

Aug 19, 2011 11:42:21 GMT -5 Bayushi Senshi said:

And, unfortunate as it is, we cannot really remain true neutral. I already have members of my clan posting about killing Lion samurai at Toshi Ranbo. BTW Thank you Hiromitsu for giving me a very awkward conversation with Akodo Tomatsu. I really wanted to deal with that.

It's not only him y'know? Haruka-san is also posting her support in the Toturi topic about the Toshi Ranbo invasion. But then again, you could simply ask them to seppuku at any time you wanted couldn't you Senshi-san?

Looking at how the events are progressing, I must say it's somewhat hypocritical to claim neutrality while members of your Clan do otherwise. Either let them do as they wish, ban them from your Clan or have them perform seppuku to redeem their honor.

But, then again, who am I to counsel you about how to run a Clan? After all, I claim no titles for myself and am only a humble novice around here.

[Asahina Yukihime]

[OOC mode on]

My turn to agree with Manji-san ^^

His own wife is "ubber" neutral, exemplary But, actually, I can understand it, right now the Scorpion seems to be kinda "who cares about the empire? We care about the Crane!" (probably with other words )

Funny world our chars are living in

[Bayushi Senshi]

*cough clears throat.* I was referring to having to talk to Tomatsu about why my clansmen are killing lion in threads. I haven't needed to talk to Tomatsu about Haruka killing crane in threads. I don't think Tomatsu would mind about that...

But yes I see your point.

I'm not gonna go IC here, as to do so would seem silly and only make people angry. Also I don't WANT to ask my people to commit seppuku, and neither do they. I can. But doing so for an OOC discussion is just damned impolite.

Also, if you are actually in character perhaps it would do you some good to call Haruka sama. people don't seem to give her the social recognition she deserves .

And also you kinda repeated what I said using different words, but in a tone that seemed to be accusing me of being a hypocrite.

Looking at how the events are progressing, I must say it's somewhat hypocritical to claim neutrality while members of your Clan do otherwise.

the very text you quoted in the same post as that quote says:

And, unfortunate as it is, we cannot really remain true neutral. I already have members of my clan posting about killing Lion samurai at Toshi Ranbo.

And yet, if you look at the news, my clan is still neutral. IC that means Senshi, the scorpion clan champion, has not picked a side yet. They are neutral.

Also if you follow certain news threads you will notice that I actually HAVE released certain bushi so that they can offer their services to the emperors. So that was a really good idea, Manji, thank you. I did that months ago.

Another thing I find kinda funny is you are assuming to know all the facts from my side of the fence. I am a scorpion. I am the scorpion champion. You don't think that I might have some *GASP* secrets do you!? Even worse, what if I had an agenda?! Or some nefarious deeds!?! Possibly even...

...

>.>
<.<

... a plan.

DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!

[Tamori Manji]

Senshi-san, I'm speaking OOC of course. I only speak IC in the relevant RP threads. But, since this is an EE forum, I see no reason to not embrace some elements of it in my speech.

As to your reply, I can offer you only a tale as an answer. As I imagine you've heard it before, I must ask you to please bear with me:

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back because the scorpion cannot swim. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

The scorpion replies: "but, little frog, I can swim."

PS.: It must be said, to avoid misunderstandings, that I mean no disrespect by my words. And don't worry, I know well that there will always be a degree of difference between our discussions in the forums, be they RP or OOC, and the actual game mechanics and events.

[Bayushi Senshi]

Yes I know the tale, but the significance it bears in our discussion escapes me. Perhaps we are arguing points completely unrelated? Or could you perhaps elaborate as to what you meant? Cause I'm starting to feel more then ever that we're just agreeing with each other very loudly and accusatorily.

[Toku Hirotomo]

"NO you're right!" "By the Fortunes, for the last time, you are!"

Monkey time.

If one looks at our heritage, most Minor Clan have a Great Clan patron. Not always in the nature of the Dragon/Dragonfly way, but some Great Clans look out for a single Minor Clan. Honestly, if I knew the chips would fall this way, I'd have made different choices. The Monkey have Scorpion patronage. Not only do we share blood, but in game terms the Scorpion see the need for a Hero as well as a Villain in the Empire. The Monkey represent something that the Scorpion can never be, so they try to ensure that our Virtue survives.

If I knew the Scorpion vote would be one of staying neutral, I very well may have sided with them. Not due to politicking, but because like any Minor Clan, I was pressured into joining a side. When you have 4 potential armies knocking on your door you do anything to survive. I made my bed though, and I intend to sleep in it. If Jay-sama does give an in game way to declare for Toturi, I will do so because that's how I'm playing. I'm not going to whimper and side with the winners because my side lost. I'm one of the samurai that will stand with Toturi III until death. It puts my clan in an awkward condition, we all sided with Toturi. Or at least the 4 or 5 of us that actually play. Jay-sama himself said that a Minor Clan could face destruction. I'm not sure what that will mean for the Monkey, and I sure don't want to drive my clan into the ground, I'll never live it down. We stood up, we fight for what we believe in, we may die.

The Scorpion have always been a funny clan. They just got back from the Burning Sands. Senshi, depending on how old his character is, may be the guy that won them back their lands. I was a little late to the party on timeline. I had to do a few changes to my characters because I did not bother to read what the date was in game. Again, hindsight is 20/20. If I do die, I intend for it to be glorious. Then I will annoy the snot out of everyone by playing a Scorpion prima donna actor. I have no idea what the Fortune of Coding will do with my clan, but as a Scion of Virtue himself, I will roll with it and do the best I can for the Empire. I admire the Scorpion for what they are doing, it is believable, and the best for themselves. I also admire the players, which is why in the event of my getting crushed, I'll reroll. If I was not already married, I would not have to kill off in game, but them's the dice.

Shine on you crazy diamonds, shine on.

[Bayushi Hiromitsu]

First of all: This are MY impressions and opinions and aren't in any form a way to go against other interpretations and other views.

Play as a scorpion it's quite harder that it looks. You can't expect people to agree with you and of course, you are not the crane, so, no one will look up to you. But also you can't be a real villain and threat to the empire, you should look like it, yes, but you can't really be it.

It's hard to keep your mouth shut, your head low and be a Scorpion. Most players want to play, want to tell what great deeds they have done. A scorpion can't do that!

Scorpion and Spider should not be the same thing. (Hard do explain, but I got the feeling that Spider is Scorpion 2.0 with powers, all bitten by a tainted radioactive spider)

When a Scorpion says "it's all going well to my plans" I think it is about being the under hand of the empire, and not about crushing another's clan. (not the case of spider, after all, they are *not* a clan )

I see the neutrality of the scorpion as a coin, with two sides:

1- could be a really awesome thing. (if things goes as I hope to go) Like defending the empire when it needed the most and stuff.
2- Really, really unimportant. (if things goes as I think they will go) Like, pretty much be sitting on our hands.

Again, it's only my way of see this matter. Thank you.