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Post by kentaro on Oct 6, 2011 17:52:25 GMT -5
I think trying to get the Corrupt Mines destroyed is not going to happen. Jay added them in to add balance, and I think ICly basically nobody knows they are there. The Spider have a hard enough time already without taking them off them. May I ask which kind of balance? They serve only tainted characters, aren't Spider only and there are no untainted equivalents of them. Also, it's surprising that there are so many corrupted mines across the Empire that no one knows/cares about. Tainted characters have no restrictions whatsoever to do anything (except a single kata that was added recently and is, quite frankly, useless) and I see only advantages to being a Spider in game. I mean, c'mon, you can start in one Clan, marry into another then swear loyalty to Daigotsu. That means three different skill sets for a single character. How is that a hard time? If there is something that I'm missing here, please point it out, I wanna know. Good to know you see no disadvantage to Spider. So, when I show up at the Dragon's door to negotiate our military assistance, I will be greeted warmly? I mean, I can make whatever character I want, but I am just the bad guy. People see that Spider tag, and KNOW I'm an undead, maho slinging madman. I'm not. I'm used to being an outsider, so I'm frankly comfortable with it. I'm being facetious here. I assume you mean disadvantage in EE, not in forum RP. Also, you could get 4 skill sets. Start as Clan A, go Spider, Marry into Clan B, return to Spider (different family). There would be overlap, but... As to useless kata, try the Spider Kata sometime. They give no better than a pair of +8's, and usually just one and a -50 taint. This amount is useful at only a small window of taint. On the issue of tainting up for what you need, then removing it: Last time I pursued Obsidian Armor, I earned a few hundred taint in the process. Ugh. Further, even if I pursue all the untainted, then taint, there will likely be new actions with taint barriers in the future. For a good source of metals, try gambling with the Daidoji. That's where I get my silver and copper. I've sepp'd a few times now. Spider is handedly the clan I have the hardest time mechanically with. I won't mention which Clan I've found the easiest mechanically, but the School Skills of Spider are generally kind of meh. No Battle, no Iaijutsu, no Horsemanship. Kenjutsu is good, but few bushi don't get it. To be fair, these are opinions, and they reflect my priorities. I suspect others may envy the ease with which I improve my Intimidation. As to being a villain: Your terms, not mine. More specifically, I feel that building a villain is the wrong way to build a villain. Build a person, with motives and desires that all can understand or sympathize with, and then go about that in a horrible way. Obviously, I speak only for myself, and not the Spider as a whole.
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Yasuki Chad
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Post by Yasuki Chad on Oct 6, 2011 17:59:36 GMT -5
My wife went to make a crane Yasuki, seems reasonable enough right? I mean, Yasuki Hachi is Yasuki Daimyo and at this period in the timeline is both Crab and Crane, as is the Yasuki house (I'm only Forum Yasuki Daimyo, due to most real crabs ignoring Daidoji Hachi as a crane/scorpion plot).
Anyway, what is the Official status of the Yasuki in EE? We have Hachi, but are soley crab here so I (and my wife) are somewhat confused.
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Oct 6, 2011 18:20:33 GMT -5
Also, you could get 4 skill sets. Start as Clan A, go Spider, Marry into Clan B, return to Spider (different family). There would be overlap, but... I've asked people around, no one could confirm me if that still works. If it does its cool, but I don't think I would have that much patience for all the taint/untaint process. Gambling = Infamy. I want neither infamy nor taint for Manji. But I am considering making a second character just for that. I do like the school skills the Spider has. Iaijutsu? Only need 20 of it. Horsemanship? Only 10. Battle? Only 20. And so on. The most useful skills, imo, are Hunting, Athletics and Shadowlands and they also have the highest common prerequisites (50 to walk around unimpeded, 40 for most missions). The others only make a difference if you want to participate in a tournament with them (in the future I do want for Manji to participate in a Spellcraft competition. So far, I am level 79 and have 250+ Spellcraft, sans equip). Talking about seppuku, my last seppuku was the most painful. Killed off a level 92 character after I realized I had messed up the skill distribution (and acquired 1 Taint 'cause of browser shenanigans. Have been doubly careful with it after that). Kentaro, people can consciously create evil characters (in the same way that people can consciously choose to act in evil ways). I say "evil characters" merely as a manner of speech (because it describes a role to be played in a story and it clarifies purpose) and I do use our occidental society's general set of aspired ethics/morals as a base. Wanting to design a villain doesn't automatically stop you from creating motivations, loves, dislikes, desires or whatever the hell you want for said character (and a villain isn't necessarily "evil", she/he is simply the opposite of the ideals espoused by the hero). Also, I was talking about Shoju, he is clearly a villain (as in "a dramatic or fictional character who is typically at odds with the hero") in my opinion.
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Post by kentaro on Oct 6, 2011 18:39:42 GMT -5
Oh, no worries, Manji-san. Everyone has been quite respectful in this thread.
I think a lot of this discussion is a "Grass is Greener on the Other Side" kind of situation.
I personally don't think I've made a villain. My take on Kentaro is that he was raised to be a Spider. He is loyal to his (unofficial) clan. He is loyal to the Hantei. He genuinely wants to find the Spider a way to be integrated into the Empire.
I do enjoy that the game forces choices. You can't do everything. Taint and Infamy are hard to get rid of. Mercantile activities usually lose Glory and/or Honor. How you get there matters.
Which path is easiest or best? Good points on all sides. A lot of it is a gamble on what missions are added, what stories occur. What skills are needed at what levels. A lot of people cranked their Battle to get a peek at the Mountain Watch Keep actions near the end of the Yobanjin War.
But, seriously, will you negotiate with me? I just want to help the Hantei.
My first post was a bit crankier in tone than intended; home sick today. I get too defensive too easily.
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Zeure
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Post by Zeure on Oct 7, 2011 0:28:30 GMT -5
I really do appreciate the game, but I would really like an event added that allows you to get a dragon ally. Forcing you to marry into the dragon clan for it sucks, and you need it for so many things. DONE!
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Enishi
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Post by Enishi on Oct 7, 2011 0:54:36 GMT -5
You can now get a dragon ally by collecting bloodspeaker journals and turning them in to the Kitsuki.
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Zeure
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Post by Zeure on Oct 7, 2011 9:46:43 GMT -5
Thank you, Ninube Enishi. I did not know that.
The only other things I really see as "would be awesome if" are 1. Someone already mentioned this, but I want to +1 it; if the Again button on actions was above the text so it didn't move based on the size of the item pictures. 2. If when you raised your ring by collecting enough tokens your fate went up by the amount your fate got raised. Or refreshed entirely, that'd be super awesome.
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Post by Shoju on Oct 7, 2011 10:57:42 GMT -5
Thank you, Ninube Enishi. I did not know that. The only other things I really see as "would be awesome if" are 1. Someone already mentioned this, but I want to +1 it; if the Again button on actions was above the text so it didn't move based on the size of the item pictures. 2. If when you raised your ring by collecting enough tokens your fate went up by the amount your fate got raised. Or refreshed entirely, that'd be super awesome. For #2, I think completely refreshed is a bad idea, if only because some of us are WELL north of 250, and a few are pushing 300 fate, and you could game that pretty well. get a ring or two ready to increase. Get ready to level. Run fate dry, or close to dry getting first ring to pop. Fate refresh. New run of fate now gets you leveled. Fate Refresh New run of fate allows you to up another ring. fate Refresh. That would be close to 850 fate for me, that I could push in close to 5-10 minutes time. grantd, you couldn't do it very often as you get leveled, but that is a pretty nice boost in fate. Going up by the 3 fate you get per ring jump? Sure. I'm cool with that.
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Post by Tonbo Kenzo on Oct 7, 2011 11:47:24 GMT -5
Has anyone mentioned getting Jade or Emerald Magistrate as a position?
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Bayushi Hisa
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Post by Bayushi Hisa on Oct 7, 2011 11:55:09 GMT -5
multiple times.
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Kakita Mitsouko
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Post by Kakita Mitsouko on Oct 7, 2011 14:08:34 GMT -5
I have a problem: My list of received gifts is almost all the time around 99+ (thank you very much!). But I simply cannot see my older gifts (and maybe accepting them as more urgent things to have) because the list just shows the last 50. Maybe Jay can put pages on it like both inventory and the dinasty...
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Bayushi Hisa
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Post by Bayushi Hisa on Oct 7, 2011 14:18:44 GMT -5
You could always decline gifts you have no use for.
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Kakita Mitsouko
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Post by Kakita Mitsouko on Oct 7, 2011 14:22:19 GMT -5
All gifts have uses. But maybe not right now...
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Tamori Manji
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Post by Tamori Manji on Oct 7, 2011 14:59:38 GMT -5
What really clogs the lists are the favors gifted in return. I never have enough space to accept them all and now my queue list is growing too...
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Post by Utaku Kasumi on Oct 7, 2011 15:03:55 GMT -5
This is why I've been saying that returning favors should NOT count for your AIR thing... (or reciving gifts should be doubled). It's really troublesome.
Or leave sending thing equal to your AIR... and unlimited space for gifts to accept ;P
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